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ORIGINAL: Suffolk944

ORIGINAL: zcacogp

LS2 is something I could be quite interested in hearing more about ... andye, who are you (in that you said you had one mocked up)?

27mpg is not that far off what I am getting from a stock S2 as it is.


Oli.

I almost went down this route via Promax when my original car had its engine issues, but in the end plumped for a new car. Still sort of regret it in someways. Have seen the LS2 that Andy has got "mocked up" and it looks fantastic (damn its giving me ideas again !)


Jon - Behave! Your first car was not suitable - your current one however is too nice to modify!

I`ll see if I can find some pictures of it - we used a scrap 944 Turbo for the exercise, although by that point it was devoid of front wings and bumper, so the car was not pretty!
 
Andy, what gearbox were you thinking of using? A lot of ppl on rennlist think the ratios on the 944 boxes are a bit short. Perhaps a 6 speed 968 box?
 

ORIGINAL: barks944

Andy, what gearbox were you thinking of using? A lot of ppl on rennlist think the ratios on the 944 boxes are a bit short. Perhaps a 6 speed 968 box?


The plan is for the 944 Turbo Box with LSD, the 968 box is harder and more expensive to get hold of, needs a 968 fuel tank as well as other bits, and is also not as strong.

The spec would be RHD, with A/C 6.0 Litre LS2 tickled to give around 450 bhp. We can introduce torque managment into the vehicles PCM (powertrain control module), thus limiting the torque at lower revs helping the drive train live longer!

At that power level it will be totally reliable - the LS2 will go on for ever at that power with no issues at all. We have already proved the capabilities of LS2 well in excess of that and made them relaible. Economy would be improved as well.

The installation would look stock, but stock if you know what I mean, Markk would love it and hate it at the same time!
 

ORIGINAL: 944Turbo

How heavy is an LS2 relative to a 944T lump?


The weight between LS2 and 944T is almost the same, we believe it alters the balance from 50/50 to 49/51, making the front slghtly heavier.
 
ORIGINAL: zcacogp

ORIGINAL: Diver944

I imagine everyone is now hiding their wallet or cutting up their credit cards :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
... or ensuring that their wives don't know how to access this forum ...

Hi Oli, that special 944 delivery is en route to you - should be delivered tomorrow on consignment no. 34230824, going via Nightfreight. Have fun!
 

ORIGINAL: barks944

Very similar I think, its an alu block.

The early iron block LS engines are not that much heavier than the later alu block ones as the alu blocks utilise steel cylinders - no Alusil here! After some Googling I think I established that the 944T engine was lighter but not by much. BUT, by the time you've added all the other bits and bobs on required for the installation the weight is bound to be higher - e.g. do you need an adaptor plate between the engine block and the clutch bell housing, what about the mod work to the mounts? Does the crank rotate in the same direction - you don't want 5 reverse gears and 1 forward gear! I think a more nose heavy car is unavoidable, but if is not by much then you wouldn't notice. For example a full tank of fuel is about 50kg and people don't seem to notice a change in behaviour of the cars handling between a full tank and empty tank. The weight difference between 944 engine and LS v8 wont be as much as 50kg's.

The costs must be comparable to a 3ltr rebuild (so not cheap!) but without the complications (once a kit configuration is sorted that is).
 

ORIGINAL: Diver944

I certainly don't think this one sounds lazy [8D]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_TNNrX_Mvo

Does nothing for me either to be honest, although perhaps that would change if I were sat in the driving seat. Not sure if it's psychological and just seems to me to be the wrong sort of noise for a 944, I've never really worked it out. I was rather hoping Simon D's V8 conversion would cure me of this concern but I think he's been a bit delayed with that project.

I'm not completely anti V8's, they can sound nice, but they have to be something a bit special [;)]

F40 video
 
You called, sir?

I'm actually thinking that I'm not going to bother to say it so much. I mean, that fact is practically part of the zeitgeist here, isn't it? In much the same way as I don't bother to repeatedly say "The sun rises in the morning", "Petrol is overpriced" or "Gordon Brown is a sour-faced Scottish idiot", I'm not sure it's worth saying "S2's are the best".

However, I am slightly worried that Nick (Appletonn) may be trying to send me a turbo - on delivery number 34230824. I've checked with Nightfreight (and DHL, Parcelforce, UPS and the rest of them) and none of them have any record of it, but if it is a turbo, how do I politely say 'No'? [:)]


Oli.

P.S. Worse still, it might be a red one. Ugh!
 

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