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2.7 rs 1973

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a beautiful car with NO history restored about 9 years ago, from an a1 reputable london dealer. but the price is a1 too! does the no history make a difference? can you get a heritate certificate from porsche to verify? thanks! Kenny
 
You would need to quote the chassis number (911 360 ????) so that we can provide any 'known' information about it.

The best RSs are sought after, and commanding big money. But there are also some dodgy examples chasing comical prices.
 
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Built May 1973, Ex-Factory Spec.
- M472 Touring
- JV (Italy)
- Black
- Black Interior/Houndstooth seat centres
- Engine #6631257
- Gearbox #7831251
- Limited Slip Diff
- Headrests l & r
- Electric Sliding Roof
- Heated Rear Window
- Inertia Reel Seat Belts
- Driver's Side Door Mirror
- Fog Lamps (mounted above front bumper)
- Engine Compartment Light
- Bumper Guards (over-riders) f & r

Owned previously by Vittorio Colombo, Milano, Italy
 
that's amazing, thanks so much. what did we do before computers! does porsche issue any certificate of authenticity, like ferrari to substantiate a car such as this? does the fact that is not ONE PIECE OF HISTORY effect value? can this be a fully valued 73 rs with no paperwork? thanks so much for your help! much appreciated. kenny
 
There must be some history. Not necessarily the service book, but the sequence of ownership, how and where it was used and maintained, etc.

History and provenance play an important part in its value. As does originality, matching numbers, overall condition, etc.etc. Restoration and parts costs are getting ridiculous, so this needs to be taken into account. If it has had work done then there should be a photographic record by a recognised specialist, with all the appropriate invoices. You really need to get an expert to look at it.

Does it have recaro sports seats? What are they asking for it?



 
its from gregor fisken and has NOTHING NADA ZERO regarding the respray and obvious engine work, etc. asking is astronomical, fullest value of what these cars are trading for. its beautiful looking and has all the visible options you referred to in list. and i wouldn't buy without an independent inspection. on the italian log book, it lists the jolly club (italian track day club of some sort?) and then the md of the jolly club then a few subsequent owners. its on their site but with just visuals no story. thanks for your feedback with this its invaluable. i have a 92 rs clubsport. kenny
 
Gentlemen,

A word of warning here please. This is a public access forum- would'nt it be a good idea to edit this post rather swiftly so that all vin numbers/ engine numbers are in the format 911360XXX. It is so very easy to clone identities etc. The best way is to communicate per personal message (pm)

Porsche cars Great Brittain charges £65 for a certificate. Now, if you do order one, make sure that you ask the often second A4 page with the options (and if UK delivered: the supplying dealer). This being an Italian car, obviously PCGB can only supply VIN and engine number and a number of options. Here is were Porsche CLUB GB comes in handy as previous owners might have logged/ registered info.

Finally, Mike Braithwaite (spelling?) logs in under the handle "210bhp" on the DDK forum. He has an italian car and could possibly supply futher information via the Porsche Club Italy; Alternatively Nick Moss from www.early911.co.uk also has contacts who could supply further info.

BUT PLEASE use the personal message function (pm) to correspond "sensitive" information as it is so very easy today to clone certificates/identities etc.

Lastly, this being a forum, a picture tells more than a 1000 words ;)

Hope this helps and good luck with the purchase,

Bert
 
While i realise the naivety of this statement , from the oldest cynic in the world , i dont think Gregor Fisken sells anything but pukka cars ..................from the advert why not arrange something ,subject to speaking to previous owner who they appear to have contact with ....................surely thats ur starter............it has been for sale a little while, someone here or in Europe may pop up who knows it .............Marco Marimelli at Eleven Parts outside Zurich might not be a bad place to ask ........he just sold a lightweight rs that came from and had been superbly restored from Italy
 
Alan, that appears to be #0726 for sale at Gregor Fisken.

There is no problem posting all the info above, as stated before, it is all in the pub;ic domain anyway.

The Jolly Cliub goes back decades, they used to run many Lancias in international level rallies, probably Porsches too. It may be worth a dig there.

I tried to trace the owner of a 2.7 RS through Porsche Club Italy, with no success whatsoever, they claimed data protection as a reason for not contacting the owner on my behalf. I knew the location of his original motor, I am sure he would have been interested.
 
thank all of you for your considered and valuable advice, in the end, would anyone spend that kind of money on a historyless car--its a lot to spend and then have to first launch an investigation on the scale of inspector cluessau (sic) aka pink panther.
 
RE: the available info in the public domain: I wasn't really referring to the master thief type; too often we hear someone publish a good selection of details and numbers and a few weeks later there is a bogus Ebay auction.

These ebay scammers rarely purchase the konradsheim book first....but do like the copy/paste function![:D]

Anyhow, Im watching at the sidelines now[;)]


Bert
 
Bert, no need to keep quiet [;)]. I agree that ebay scammers take info from adverts, there is a RHD 2.2 on eBay now, copied from a trader's advert. However if you follow the link in Alan's post above you will find the Fisken advert for another RS, complete with all the VIN, engine number and other details. We all do it, how else do you sell a car? Also you don't need Konradsheim's book, there are websites with the same details.
 
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