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CarreraRSR
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Yep, May edition just landed and its full of 911 again
Mark Mullen
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Very kind.
Have we met?
morris944s2john
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I stopped reading car magazines ten years ago because of these inaccuracies and naff journalism.
Most of the writing is at the level of a 14 year old and mostly just a rehash of previous articles!!
One journo in the past forms and opinion and this line is then trotted out in one form or another for the next 30-50 years. Look at all the rubbish written about the MGC over the years. The newest trick is to start with this perceived wisdom and pretend they are going to debunk it, but then just trot out an agreement.
That said I do enjoy reading some of them, esp. when they say the 944 is still one of the best handling cars around.[
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One journo in the past forms and opinion and this line is then trotted out in one form or another for the next 30-50 years. Look at all the rubbish written about the MGC over the years. The newest trick is to start with this perceived wisdom and pretend they are going to debunk it, but then just trot out an agreement.
That said I do enjoy reading some of them, esp. when they say the 944 is still one of the best handling cars around.[
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I have been a subscriber for about 10 years, but increasingly wonder why I bother, at the end of the day I feel that it is a good way of keeping in touch with what is happening in the world.
However, they quality of journalism has gone down hill with regular howlers and some is very lazy with articles that don't actually say anything. It feels like they have run out of things to say. I don't this is just this magazine though, I think journalism has seriously dumbed down in the last couple of years. I used to love the Sunday Times, and these days it is little more than a comic and generally complete gibberish.
What I would like to know though, is why 911 &PW insist on printing dark text on a dark background FFS, it's impossible to read in bed.
However, they quality of journalism has gone down hill with regular howlers and some is very lazy with articles that don't actually say anything. It feels like they have run out of things to say. I don't this is just this magazine though, I think journalism has seriously dumbed down in the last couple of years. I used to love the Sunday Times, and these days it is little more than a comic and generally complete gibberish.
What I would like to know though, is why 911 &PW insist on printing dark text on a dark background FFS, it's impossible to read in bed.
Above comment from 944 man raises an interesting point. This forum will not accept posts which criticize garages/dealers on the grounds of liability. Is it morally justifiable or even fair to accept posts which make personal ( and in my mind damaging ) comments of this nature?
I have known MM since he started at SCofM and do not recognise the description which has been posted in any shape or form. His response speaks volumes.
Before conspiracy theorist suggests that he has put me up to this I can confirm that he has no idea that I am posting this.
Andrew
I have known MM since he started at SCofM and do not recognise the description which has been posted in any shape or form. His response speaks volumes.
Before conspiracy theorist suggests that he has put me up to this I can confirm that he has no idea that I am posting this.
Andrew
OLD_ian
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It's a car magazine! They're all written at the level of 14 years olds. Frankly the reason we drive Porsches is because of our inner 14 year old. Otherwise would we drive something that is expensive to run, impractical, and only carries two people?
Anyway i do have a subscription, but i won it in a contest at last years Porsche Picnic.
Anyway i do have a subscription, but i won it in a contest at last years Porsche Picnic.
pauljmcnulty
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I struggle with car magazines. By the time they arrive, you've read anything you wanted to know about 6 weeks before on t'internet, and had the ability to research it more if you wanted. That includes Porsche Post: I think I spend less than ten minutes on it now. []
What they need is lots of stuff that isn't "news", as they're so far behind. That means something like Porsche Post needs to be Club-relevant, more region and register oriented. Mainstream titles like Car need to have the best opinion-writers, and that's hard as most of them are dead now (Setright, Bulgin, Bishop et al), or "big" pieces like the Ferrari to Tiero del Fuego, that make good reading with big pictures, and can now link to more pics and video online.
Niche mags like 911 &PW are in a real hole as I see it. Porsche owners are far more likely than most to be getting their info and entertainment online, and a bundle of adverts and re-hashed articles aren't enough to keep people subscribing.
]What they need is lots of stuff that isn't "news", as they're so far behind. That means something like Porsche Post needs to be Club-relevant, more region and register oriented. Mainstream titles like Car need to have the best opinion-writers, and that's hard as most of them are dead now (Setright, Bulgin, Bishop et al), or "big" pieces like the Ferrari to Tiero del Fuego, that make good reading with big pictures, and can now link to more pics and video online.
Niche mags like 911 &PW are in a real hole as I see it. Porsche owners are far more likely than most to be getting their info and entertainment online, and a bundle of adverts and re-hashed articles aren't enough to keep people subscribing.
OLD_ian
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lets be realistic"¦ how much can a journalist say about a 30 year old car that hasn't already been said?
ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty
I struggle with car magazines. By the time they arrive, you've read anything you wanted to know about 6 weeks before on t'internet, and had the ability to research it more if you wanted. That includes Porsche Post: I think I spend less than ten minutes on it now. [
What they need is lots of stuff that isn't "news", as they're so far behind. That means something like Porsche Post needs to be Club-relevant, more region and register oriented. Mainstream titles like Car need to have the best opinion-writers, and that's hard as most of them are dead now (Setright, Bulgin, Bishop et al), or "big" pieces like the Ferrari to Tiero del Fuego, that make good reading with big pictures, and can now link to more pics and video online.
Niche mags like 911 &PW are in a real hole as I see it. Porsche owners are far more likely than most to be getting their info and entertainment online, and a bundle of adverts and re-hashed articles aren't enough to keep people subscribing.
ORIGINAL: _ian
lets be realistic"¦ how much can a journalist say about a 30 year old car that hasn't already been said?
ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty
I struggle with car magazines. By the time they arrive, you've read anything you wanted to know about 6 weeks before on t'internet, and had the ability to research it more if you wanted. That includes Porsche Post: I think I spend less than ten minutes on it now. [
What they need is lots of stuff that isn't "news", as they're so far behind. That means something like Porsche Post needs to be Club-relevant, more region and register oriented. Mainstream titles like Car need to have the best opinion-writers, and that's hard as most of them are dead now (Setright, Bulgin, Bishop et al), or "big" pieces like the Ferrari to Tiero del Fuego, that make good reading with big pictures, and can now link to more pics and video online.
Niche mags like 911 &PW are in a real hole as I see it. Porsche owners are far more likely than most to be getting their info and entertainment online, and a bundle of adverts and re-hashed articles aren't enough to keep people subscribing.
So why do they bother trying AND still get some basics wrong!
They get what they pay for. A great many articles in the likes of 911 and PW are free (as are a great many in other news stand magazines) because the people want to appear in print.
Some years back I had a double page photo in Purely Porsche and didn't even get a free magazine. I have an acquaintance who regularly contributes to Skirmish magazine and gets nothing. It really annoys me as it devalues everything. Magazines aren't going to pay top money to top journalists and photographers when they can fill pages for free. I didn't realize I would get nothing for my photo and would probably have told them where to stick it if I'd known they were going to run it as a double page.
Back in the day professional journalists understood their subject inside out. Now they seem to be more intent on getting to as many car launch freebies as they can.
Sorry about the poor penmanship - it was typed on my Nexus.
Some years back I had a double page photo in Purely Porsche and didn't even get a free magazine. I have an acquaintance who regularly contributes to Skirmish magazine and gets nothing. It really annoys me as it devalues everything. Magazines aren't going to pay top money to top journalists and photographers when they can fill pages for free. I didn't realize I would get nothing for my photo and would probably have told them where to stick it if I'd known they were going to run it as a double page.
Back in the day professional journalists understood their subject inside out. Now they seem to be more intent on getting to as many car launch freebies as they can.
Sorry about the poor penmanship - it was typed on my Nexus.
chrismanchr
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yes but they could at least get the original information correct ian ,and not write a load of gibberishORIGINAL: _ian
lets be realistic"¦ how much can a journalist say about a 30 year old car that hasn't already been said?
ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty
I struggle with car magazines. By the time they arrive, you've read anything you wanted to know about 6 weeks before on t'internet, and had the ability to research it more if you wanted. That includes Porsche Post: I think I spend less than ten minutes on it now. [
What they need is lots of stuff that isn't "news", as they're so far behind. That means something like Porsche Post needs to be Club-relevant, more region and register oriented. Mainstream titles like Car need to have the best opinion-writers, and that's hard as most of them are dead now (Setright, Bulgin, Bishop et al), or "big" pieces like the Ferrari to Tiero del Fuego, that make good reading with big pictures, and can now link to more pics and video online.
Niche mags like 911 &PW are in a real hole as I see it. Porsche owners are far more likely than most to be getting their info and entertainment online, and a bundle of adverts and re-hashed articles aren't enough to keep people subscribing.
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