924 racecar bought
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Here she is - hoping for fun in 2009 Future Classics series of the CSCC.
Any other racecar owners feel free to get in touch - I will need as much help as I can get!
I have seen you out and about in CSCC Future Classics this year (I'm out in either a Fiat Uno or a Toyota Carina in Tin Tops) and I hope that you are enjoying it and will be out again next year.
Must admit that I fancy a 924 Turbo racer myself (so that I could also be eligible for the CSCC 'Ring "Youngtimer" invites) but don't recall ever seeing one come up for sale, or a 944S2 or Turbo(Just for FC but out of my price range, though!)
The series is good fun as its not overly serious! I had a little tap at Brands in May but now more or less sorted and testing next Monday at Llandow. Hopefully will be out again at Snet for last race of the season on 18th.
If you are there say hello - it would be good to get some more 924's out as my class is a bit sparse!
There's a 924 racecar for sale on Pistonheads if you're interested. Don't know if the Turbo would be a good idea as it will put you in with the big boys - I would prefer a 944S2.
If you are there say hello - it would be good to get some more 924's out as my class is a bit sparse!
There's a 924 racecar for sale on Pistonheads if you're interested. Don't know if the Turbo would be a good idea as it will put you in with the big boys - I would prefer a 944S2.
I might not get the chance to ay high at Snett as our race is on the saturday (Tin Tops). I just thought about a 924 turbo as it would have reasonable performance for the weight and would be eligible for the CSCC's Nurburgring invites but, you are right, a 944S2 is the car to have in the 2 litre to 3 litre class. I looked at a very nice one at EMC but I can't afford another race car, unless I sell the Uno (which no one seems to want despite it being an excellent car!)
Don't think I have ever seen a 924 Turbo race car for sale anyway so its a bit irrelevant.
Also thought about a 928 but also too expensive for me!
What other cars run in your upto 2 litre class? Is the 924 competitive? Maybe if the proposed Boxster racing series takes off then some of the 924 racers will be looking for somewhere else to race. We need to encourage them to join you in CSCC Future Classics!
Well, now you've got me thinking.....
I guess I can only really think of alternatives such as 2 litre TR7 and Triumph Dolomite Sprint, 2 litre Capris, Opel Mantas, 1700cc Alfa Sprints, early Maxda RX7, POrsche's own 914 or 914/6 and cars that are already eligible for Tin Tops such a VW Golfs and Scrrocos and the like. However, how many of these sorts of cars are in (racing) captivity? Not that many.
I guess that the big advantage that the 924 has is that loads were built for the BRSCC/ PDA 924 series so there must be loads still available. They are not that expensive either and parts are still available. They just need to be persuaded to come out & try CSCC "Future Classics". 924s could become the "weapon of choice" for the 1601 to 2000cc "Future Classic" class. Could have an unofficial 924 class.
Another advantage is that the 924 would also be eligible for the CSCC invites to the Nurburgring races (models have to have been pre 1981 to be eligible as the CSCC broadly fits in to the ADAC "Youngtimer" categories). The 924 must be one of the chaepest and most robust cars for that sort of caper!
(As an aside, I wonder what will happen to the 924 Series now that the BRSCC & PDA have decided to introduce the Boxster series?)
I know that the CSCC is trying to strengthen the participation of 1970s under 2 litre cars within "Future Classics" so maybe this will give more competition. I also think that the main opposition to a 924 could come from Mk1 MR2 and MX5s (albeit that they are in the 1600 class) if a few more of those can be attracted from their own series' to try the CSCC's "mini-enduro" format.
I'm not so sure that many from the 924 championship will move up to the Boxters as the costs will be MUCH higher. I would be tempted into a 944s2 or 968 in the Porsche Club Championship as against the Boxter. It's better IMO to buy ready built 968 for example than to buy a Boxster S and have to build it.
There was a TR7 2 litre out that was quite quick come to think of it. Capris eligble for swinging 60s so would probably race in that.
There was a TR7 2 litre out that was quite quick come to think of it. Capris eligble for swinging 60s so would probably race in that.
I think you are right about the Boxsters - a different level of budget entirely. I hope it succeeds, and I can see why it might be an attractive idea but a secondhand EMC built S2 for £9-10K would get my vote. Mind you i think that running costs in the PCGB saeries are quite high, too.
If 924 racers are not going to step up (and I don't think they will) then we should ecourage them to join CSCC Future Classics where, as you have identified, they will be competitive.
I guess that when the 924 Turbo was introduced the turbo equivelancy factor in motorsport was 1.4 putting the car in to the 2 litre to 3 litre class, where it would have been competitive. Now, turbo equivelancy is usually 1.7 putting it in the 3 litre plus class where a 924T will struggle against Sierra Cosworths & the like. Perhaps there's a case for some Turbo cars before a certain age to remain with an equivelancy of 1.4?
Don't think so - there was a Rover Tomcat in the series that had over 300 bhp out of 2 litres and seriously rapid.
I am now thinking of entering the Sports v Saloons race on the Saturday 17th at Snet. Depends on how I get on at Llandow on Monday as doing a test day to set up.
I am now thinking of entering the Sports v Saloons race on the Saturday 17th at Snet. Depends on how I get on at Llandow on Monday as doing a test day to set up.
But I was thinking that a rover Tomcat would have to retain 1.7 equivelancy as it was a more modern car; perhaps Turbo cars pre Sierra Cosworth (1986) could be x1.4. I can olny think of a few - the 924T, The Fiat Uno Turbo, MG Metro Turbo, Mitsubishi Starion and Saab 99.
I have also entered saturdays Sports Vs Saloon race (as well as the Tin Tops race) in my Toyota
Phil, for info the CSCC have decided to introduce a new class within the "Future Classics" series for next year (2010). This will be known as the "Super 70s" class and will specifically be for all Sports, GTs & Saloon/ hatches below 2 litres that were of a production type introduced berfore the end of 1981. The aim is to encourage more cars from the 1970s and very early 1980s out & to give them a (40 minute mini enduro) place to race & be competitive against cars of similar age group. 1981 has been chosen as an age cut off specifically so that the cars in the new class are also eligible for the annual invite to the "Youngtimer" 300Km race at the Nurburgring. All other regs for the Future Classics series will remain the same.
If you know of any more 924 racers thinking about joining in, let them know.
If you know of any more 924 racers thinking about joining in, let them know.
On a similar vein, i am looking for a 924 which I can use up in Scotland for the SMRC Classic and thoroughbred class. Has to be pre 1980, and be able to have an MOT, tax and insurance. I dont see many 924 challange cars or race prepared ones come up for sale so if anyone know of one or is looking to sell, send me a PM as I may well be interested.
Thanks
George
Thanks
George
Have a look here: http://www.dbracing.org.uk/forsale.htm
The white 924 is a road legal racer, I think, and is still for sale.
There are a couple of 924 racers for sale on the 924 series web site: http://www.porscheracingdrivers.co.uk/for1/for1.asp
The white 924 is a road legal racer, I think, and is still for sale.
There are a couple of 924 racers for sale on the 924 series web site: http://www.porscheracingdrivers.co.uk/for1/for1.asp
Neil Haughey
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Interesting stuff guys, hopefully I will see you at some of the FC races this year. I agree about the Boxster series. It should have been done along the lines of the Ma5da and used a 2.5 with bolt in cage and very minimal prep. If they could have got cars ready to race for 8 grand they could have had loads of takers.
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