944 estate for sale...
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bmnelsc
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Far be it from me to insult your tastes but IMHO the only coupe that successfully translated to an estate was the Volvo P1800 ES circa 1972.
This one does appear to be well done but its quite a box. Maybe if the original rear side window was retained also with a C pillar and then the roof extended... might have given it a more interesting profile.
This one does appear to be well done but its quite a box. Maybe if the original rear side window was retained also with a C pillar and then the roof extended... might have given it a more interesting profile.
pauljmcnulty
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The guide price for the last few DP conversions was c. 18000 euros, on top of your car and anything it might need doing whilst they're at it. I'd say 25000 was a very resonable estimate of what it would cost me to get my car converted, including the car's value.
But, the only DP conversions i've seen are based around bodges of 924 donor cars, turbo running gear, all sorts of dodgy interiors, that sort of thing. Given that all the originals will be likely to need restoring, I'd go for a new conversion for that money. Take a decent S2, in a colour that suits the car like Titan Silver, with a subtle interior in full leather......[8|]
But, the only DP conversions i've seen are based around bodges of 924 donor cars, turbo running gear, all sorts of dodgy interiors, that sort of thing. Given that all the originals will be likely to need restoring, I'd go for a new conversion for that money. Take a decent S2, in a colour that suits the car like Titan Silver, with a subtle interior in full leather......[8|]
Must disagree Bruce, I love it[
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But my first and third cars were Lancia Hpe's.
]But my first and third cars were Lancia Hpe's.
Suffolk944
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I love these and like Mike have had two HPE's in the past wonderful cars themselves wish I had never got rid of the second one a supercharged Volumex model that was immaculate. What was I thinking ??[&:]
Like me and my 2.0iE!
I only did 'cos daughter No2 was on her way and the ex knackered her back putting No1 in the car seat - no2 will be 18 in Aprilk!
I only did 'cos daughter No2 was on her way and the ex knackered her back putting No1 in the car seat - no2 will be 18 in Aprilk!
Paul - that's a 924, taken from the description here:
http://www.autoblog.nl/porsche-924-shooting-brake-staat-te-shinen-in-belgie
I love it too, despite the £21,000 price tag. I could almost be very tempted to go and have a look, and see what sort of cheeky offer the guy might be open to accepting - after all, the market for such a car will be very, very limited.
However, as you said Paul, expecting to get the cost of an unmodified car AND the cost of the conversion back when selling is optimistic. Everyone knows (and 951 owners know better than most!) that you don't get the cost of modifications back when you sell the car. The limited number of buyers, plus the fact that the conversion was VERY expensive, would suggest that a more reasonable price should have no more than four figures in it (in pounds). And that's assuming that the rest of the car is in very good condition indeed.
(Out of curiosity, your post suggests that you have actually seen one of these beasts ... when and where?)
Oli.
pauljmcnulty
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Not in the flesh, but in numerous pictures and articles. If I had the cash lying around I really would look in to getting mine done; the restoration cost on mine will be pretty high when it's done anyway, as I'll get it done well, so owning a really unusual car like this would be worth doubling or trebling that cost to me. As I say, IF I had the money, which I don't! [&:]
That would be as a very long-term keeper, though. You're never going to get the cost of restoring a 944 back when selling it, let alone converting it in to an Allegro estate. [
]Paul,
You're talking about a restoration of your S2 - I thought yours was a good 'un? If it's in reasonable nick, and you look after it carefully, you shouldn't be needing to restore it now or at any time in the future, surely?
On a different note, I was reading (on something linked from Pistonheads) about people who do car conversions only to find out (once complete) that they are not able to be registered as road-legal as the original structure of the car has been so compromised. The example was (from memory) some nitwit who thought that his Citroen Saxo would be improved by making it into a pick-up, paid a lot to have the work done, only to find out that he had created an expensive and shiny ornament. I presume that a 944 estate conversion wouldn't fall foul of the same sort of legislation in the UK?
Oli.
You're talking about a restoration of your S2 - I thought yours was a good 'un? If it's in reasonable nick, and you look after it carefully, you shouldn't be needing to restore it now or at any time in the future, surely?
On a different note, I was reading (on something linked from Pistonheads) about people who do car conversions only to find out (once complete) that they are not able to be registered as road-legal as the original structure of the car has been so compromised. The example was (from memory) some nitwit who thought that his Citroen Saxo would be improved by making it into a pick-up, paid a lot to have the work done, only to find out that he had created an expensive and shiny ornament. I presume that a 944 estate conversion wouldn't fall foul of the same sort of legislation in the UK?
Oli.
pauljmcnulty
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Mine's not bad, but it needs attention to front wings, sills, rear arches, rear panel and hatch latches, sunroof, badge panell and stone chips to the front end. Add in dinks on most panels and to be realistic it's going to be a full respray to proper standard, replace metal as necessary, treat everything, clean up and underseal the underneath, sort out a few carpet issues and some interior trim. That's going to be north of £5K I would think, so c. £18K to do all that and turn it in to an estate doesn't seem so much. I don't imagine any registration issues as it's a proper conversion that passes the German regs!
There are some lovely shooting brakes, another of my favourites here:
Please dont keep posting pics of the Lynx Eventer - makes me go all weak at the knees - EVERY time.
Had a short passenger ride in one when it was just a few months old.........Ahhhh
Had a short passenger ride in one when it was just a few months old.........Ahhhh
pauljmcnulty
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There's a pic of one in this month's Car mag letters. In Sloane Street, I think. I guess he can afford to park on the Yellows regularly!
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