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Hello there.

This black (my preferred colour) 944 S has come up in Bristol where I live. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320304168731&fromMakeTrack=true

I wondered if any forum members could shed any light on the S series (as different from Lux) and give their opinions on this model. This would be most helpful indeed.

Many thanks in advance,

David.
 
944S = 2.5l as per Lux but with 16V head, giving circa 190hp vs 160 for Lux, but with power and torque all generated further up the rev range.

In short, it needs to be revved to get the performance

Great car in the shadow of the S2
 
The S is different in one major way in that it has a 16v head instead of the 8v on the Lux. It is a very rev happy engine and you need to keep it over 4000rpm to keep it on the boil.

The only downside is there is an extra service item compared to the 8v. Inside the head there is a chain that links both camshafts, this needs to be changed every 50k miles along with it's tensioner block because the chain stretches. If left it will eventually destroy the camshafts £££££

I notice no mention of this vital item on the advert so assume it has never been done and be prepared for a big bill if the cams have been damaged. This advert also lists as a bonus that the belts were last changed in May 2005. This is not a bonus because they really should be changed every 3 years for safety so they are now well overdue
 
Hi guys. Thanks eversomuch for all the information here. Hmmm... I'm not so sure if I want to get such a rev-hungry car. I'm not really that much of a 39 year old boy racer, and want an elegant drive, so perhaps it's not for me.

David - your car does look very nice though.

An extremely good condition 924S has just come to my attention via a friend of mine and I thought I would go and have a look at it tomorrow morning. Had never really thought of this and don't know much about them. Do I need to switch forums here or would the 944-heads like to share their thoughts on this model. is it basically a 944 in a 924 shell? Feel free to wax lyrical!

David.

 
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Hi guys. Thanks eversomuch for all the information here. Hmmm... I'm not so sure if I want to get such a rev-hungry car. I'm not really that much of a 39 year old boy racer, and want an elegant drive, so perhaps it's not for me.

David - your car does look very nice though.

An extremely good condition 924S has just come to my attention via a friend of mine and I thought I would go and have a look at it tomorrow morning. Had never really thought of this and don't know much about them. Do I need to switch forums here or would the 944-heads like to share their thoughts on this model. is it basically a 944 in a 924 shell? Feel free to wax lyrical!

David.
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No problem - it's not actually that bad, certainly not like a VTEC engine. Not really boy racer stylee at all!
Anyway if you fancy coming and seeing then you're very welcome, you don't really want a 924!
 
An extremely good condition 924S has just come to my attention via a friend of mine and I thought I would go and have a look at it tomorrow morning. Had never really thought of this and don't know much about them. Do I need to switch forums here or would the 944-heads like to share their thoughts on this model. is it basically a 944 in a 924 shell? Feel free to wax lyrical!
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The 924S is, indeed the same as an early 944 8V, but with a very slightly de-tuned engine and lighter weight. As long as you don't mind the early-style interior then they are a fantastic buy, not least because they are generally cheaper than a 944 and should be available for next to nothing.

The 8V cars are definately different in character to the 16V, particularly the S as the S2 has a 3L engine to boost torque. They are a very relaxed car to drive, lot's of low-down torque but happy to rev if you feel the urge. To me it's nice not having to constantly think about being in a certain gear all the time, but then I'm 42 and not a boy racer either! [&:]


 
AFAIK there is a lot of crossover between 924/944. The S engined 924 is the lux engine from the 944 but of course the 924 is lighter so tends to go better. I think the dash is shared with the pre-oval dash 944s.
I imagine you will find lots of the same people here and in the 924 forum.
 
Many thanks guys.

Just remember me should you see a great nick black 944 lux. I rather do like the older dash too. A black S2 would be fabulous too, but with the cost of petrol these days, wouldn't it be considerably more expensive to run? Just being patient waiting for the right one to come along at the right price.

David.
 
924S is a great car - I prefer it to the 944 shape, although the interior (like early 944's) is more dated. My ideal would be a 924S with 968 running gear [:D]

You're right in that it is a 944 drivetrain in a 924 shell - so more like an 8V 944 than a 2.0 924.

The '88 model had the160bhp motor (and inertia reel rear belts). there are far fewer 924S's, and prices are a bit all over the place.£2-£2.5k should get you a good one
 
I often drive the commute in my 944S without going into its power band and never hold anyone up, it's a relaxing place to be and there's more than enough power to keep up with the normal traffic flow. However when I feel the need to quicken the heart rate on the twisties I keep it on the boil and delight in the go it has in the last 2.5K rpm. It's quite a jekyll and hyde kind of car really and I enjoy that (but I don't love it more or less than the 8v engine or the S2, they're all great).

As has been said elsewhere, it doesn't matter which one you buy as long as you buy the right car. A nice 924 would be preferable to a grotty 944 any day and a 924S is probably the best of both worlds if you're on a limited budget. If I'm honest it looks a little malnourished to my eyes, but I'm sure I'd grow to love it (or turn it into a 924CGT lookalike with more poke [:D]).
 
Does anyone have an owners manual for an S that has the factory Dyno charts in the back?

It would be interesting to compare the graphs for an 8v Lux and a 16v S. I am going to guess that the low down power is pretty much identical and then the S takes off after 5000rpm. Because of this hike in power it may 'feel' gutless low down but actually is just as grunty as the 8v

My '89 and '90 owners manuals only has charts for the 2.7, S2 and Turbo
 
Yes please, I'm feeling a bit anorakish tonight [:)] diver944 at yahoo dot com should get to me

I might scan all of mine and create a seperate post for the FAQ's
 
I would definately say it feels like there is less torque, pulling into fast moving traffic is more difficult than in a Lux. I wont forget this in a hurry [:)]

I have manuals for both but no scanner. I am useless. Sadly the graphs have different scales so it's tricky to compare, but if my mildy alcohol infused mind isn't misled it does seem to have as much or more torque above 1100rpm, so I guess it's the longer gearing that makes it feel less potent.
 
Here you go. NB Like Peter said, note different scales on the graphs. 944 left, 944S right.


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If I'm honest it looks a little malnourished to my eyes
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Good description.

So I took the 924S for a spin today. Very, very tidy indeed. Gold. 12 months MOT. £1200. Not a black 944, I know, but I may be tempted...
 
Hmmm a gold 924. I bet the interior was choclate brown? [ChandlerBing]Could it be more Seventies?[/ChandlerBing]
 
Certainly was ...and my sideboards grew before my eyes, my jeans turned to cords, and Abba was on the radio...
 
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