944 S2 valuation?
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I'd agree with Andrew - almost anyway. Maybe £2,000 to £6,500 depending on the details. It's easily possible for a 124k miler with full history to be a shed and full Porsche history is not a good thing with an S2; that tells me right away the cam chain wasn't looked at for 104k miles so it very likely needs £1,500 worth of camshafts.
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ORIGINAL: Fen
Sounds like it might be about right. Nice interior or pinstripe non-sport velour?![[FONT=verdana,geneva"]](/forum/styles/default/pcgb/space.gif ". [FONT=verdana,geneva\"]")
I will def check through all the paperwork and I take note, thanks. Interior is full black leather in very nice condition. I have some pics but have'nt yet worked out how to post them on here. it is asking for the link, they are sat here on my desktop...
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Big Dave
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I totaly + wholeheartedly agree with Fen when he says CHECK the cams + chain...NOT just the belts, cam + balance....
If they aint ever been checked then you "probably" will need a new set....
Also dont be fooled into just putting a new chain + pads on ,, as the old chain will have most likely stretched over time causing the cam sprockets to wear incorrectly , when you then put a new chain on ,it contacts a different part of the cam teeth + can snap off the teeth, then causing ,in the worst case, the top end to sieze up + DISASTER....££££££££££££££££
This IS exactly the same for a 968 also....
OPC,s NEVER check these bits....[
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As you maybee able to tell i found this out the "expensive" way....[][][][]
Also check if the clutch has been chainged "recently"
If not then budget for another £600 ish for that to be done...As they only last for aprox 100,000 ish miles...
This is NOT meant to put you off the car in any way , its just nice to go in well informed...
Saying all that for £4500 it sounds OK....
Enjoy.......+ Happy 944S2,ing....
If they aint ever been checked then you "probably" will need a new set....
Also dont be fooled into just putting a new chain + pads on ,, as the old chain will have most likely stretched over time causing the cam sprockets to wear incorrectly , when you then put a new chain on ,it contacts a different part of the cam teeth + can snap off the teeth, then causing ,in the worst case, the top end to sieze up + DISASTER....££££££££££££££££
This IS exactly the same for a 968 also....
OPC,s NEVER check these bits....[
][][][][][]As you maybee able to tell i found this out the "expensive" way....[
][][][]Also check if the clutch has been chainged "recently"
If not then budget for another £600 ish for that to be done...As they only last for aprox 100,000 ish miles...
This is NOT meant to put you off the car in any way , its just nice to go in well informed...
Saying all that for £4500 it sounds OK....
Enjoy.......+ Happy 944S2,ing....
I'd echo what Graeme says, don't be put off, but do be aware you might have a 4 figure bill right away if you buy with no record of cam chain work by someone who knows what they are doing and get it checked. Obviously you can buy and not have it checked but if you do then one day your head will be pulled abruptly from that bucket of sand either when the engine goes pop (it happened earlier this year on here) or when you find teeth in the sump during an oil change (happened on here not long ago). Use the info to chip the vendor on price if the car is expensive. Remember, it's a very quiet time to sell a car so values of sportscars are suppressed. I'd say an S2 in the most desirable colours (that is not red BTW), with a leather sport interior, evidence of recent cam, clutch, brake and belt work plus full specialist history showing no faults whatsoever is worth £7k normally and is worth £6,500 tops at this time of year. No evidence of cam work = £1,000 to £1,500 off the price to offset the likely costs or rectification. My independent told me recently he could do a 968 cam job for £1,000 which is very competitive, but it depends on the price of cams at the time and they vary. When I bought my S2 cab (at 142,000) I considered it was worth £1,500 more than I paid - within a week I had spent exactly that figure on a 48,000 mile service and new cams. I ran it for a further 50,000 miles over 21 months and with routine servicing and a few maintenance replacements it never gave me any trouble save a failed clutch cylinder. They are good cars but the cams are becoming an Achilles heel.
Use the info to chip the vendor on price if the car is expensive. Remember, it's a very quiet time to sell a car so values of sportscars are suppressed. I'd say an S2 in the most desirable colours (that is not red BTW), with a leather sport interior, evidence of recent cam, clutch, brake and belt work plus full specialist history showing no faults whatsoever is worth £7k normally and is worth £6,500 tops at this time of year. No evidence of cam work = £1,000 to £1,500 off the price to offset the likely costs or rectification. My independent told me recently he could do a 968 cam job for £1,000 which is very competitive, but it depends on the price of cams at the time and they vary. When I bought my S2 cab (at 142,000) I considered it was worth £1,500 more than I paid - within a week I had spent exactly that figure on a 48,000 mile service and new cams. I ran it for a further 50,000 miles over 21 months and with routine servicing and a few maintenance replacements it never gave me any trouble save a failed clutch cylinder. They are good cars but the cams are becoming an Achilles heel.
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Right, the best thing about posting stuff on the Net is that the person you are communicating with cannot see your embarrassment, so here goes. I thought all that needed to be confirmed was that the cambelt had been changed and that the belt had been re-tensioned at some point afterwards. I am now, however, totally confused as I think what you guys are saying is that the cam chain needs to have been changed. Pardon my ignorance, but I thought that you cannot have a cambelt AND a camchain??!! What's going on??!! What do I need confirmation of??!! PLEASE HELP ME BEFORE I INVEST MY LIFE SAVINGS ON A (BROKEN) GARDEN ORNAMENT!!!!!
timig
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Just seen these postings about cam chains, and there was me thinking I was clever to check the belts had been done when i bought the car in May! My S2 has done just over 100,000 miles, is this danger territory for cam chains to go, or can i hold off getting them checked until May when the annual service is due??
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944turboS
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Ayaana,
I would go take a look, if possible take along someone who knows these cars (sure someone would volunteer if you put out a plee) then if you think it's a good buy start looking through the history (full bills not just stamps in the service book) then finally you could get an indipendant specialist to take a look. If all this checks out you will be as sure as anyone else you have value for your money.
I would go take a look, if possible take along someone who knows these cars (sure someone would volunteer if you put out a plee) then if you think it's a good buy start looking through the history (full bills not just stamps in the service book) then finally you could get an indipendant specialist to take a look. If all this checks out you will be as sure as anyone else you have value for your money.
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