964 values?

Guest · Jul 29, 2004

Just had a telphone offer on my 964 91 C4 manual, good condition FSH and my jaw dropped

Given this basic and limited description would anybody care to guess how much when traded against a £26 porsche and how much it is really worth?

lee fulford · Jul 29, 2004

Much obviously depends on spec, mileage and history but lets assume it has the all important spec such as A/C, mileage about 80k with a FPSH.

I'd reckon they've probably offered you about £13500.

Go on have I bought it?

lee

Guest · Aug 1, 2004

AC, trip comp etc and FPSH or agent to date, its done 89k. No leather

ANy other guesses

lee fulford · Aug 1, 2004

Wot...No leather?

Make that £12,000

lee

kevin · Aug 3, 2004

well, my 93 C2 with 98k on the clock was offered 16k trade in, and its almost mint, so I'd say about £11500. trade in, but worth £15 or so private. obviously if the miles are high, the price will drop accordingly

kevin

Jamie Summers · Aug 4, 2004

My guess (from current experience) would be about £9K - do I win ????

Jamie

Guest · Aug 5, 2004

I was hoping you would all have a higher value on the car! He offered 12k.

So against a 993 at 26k, in 12 months time it would be worth 18k giving a fall of 660/month

So much for low depreciation on older Porsche!

lee fulford · Aug 5, 2004

John

Think that means I win..Got to say a Porsche 911 without leather is never going to be popular...993 has got to be a save bet on values

How long have you owned the 964?...A mean bid I would admit especially since all 911 prices have hardened in the last year or so.

lee

oldtimer · Aug 5, 2004

I used to reckon on depreciation of about £6k/year based on buying at 1.5 to 2 year old ( not new) then selling at 4 to 5 year old. Some people are dead lucky and dont suffer such losses , and I could have done better on a 993 that I traded in for 26k in Aug 99 , if I had kept it instead of going to a 996. That 993 ,some 5 years on , would probably still fetch around 20k.
Unlike 993s, the value of used 996's has softened not hardened , much more like used BMWs or Mercs , probably because many more are available on the market.
Lets face it , Porsche 911s are expensive and if you want to keep up to date on the model front then you have to be prepared to pay market price. FWIW , I dont think the 993 offers enough over the 964 to justify the extra.

lee fulford · Aug 6, 2004

The 996 is a car that was produced to appeal to the masses, a much wider audience and as such it attracts the non enthusiast and sells in greater numbers.

I sold a 98S 993 C4 S with 6000 miles about 3 and a half years ago for 50K, that car would still be worth that today and reckon it'll be worth more in another 2 years.

You have to pick your model carefully. The 964 will probably be worth more as time goes by. MY 964 RS has increased in value to the tune of 9K in the 4 odd years that I've owned it.

Last year I had an 1981 carrera that I struggled to get 8k for...today you cant find them for that money....unfortunately for some I cant see the 996 going the same way.

Lee

lee fulford · Aug 6, 2004

Johno

How much will you take for it and where are you?

lee

Guest · Aug 9, 2004

Lee

I had an offer of £13k today from a local dealer chap, told him I was thinking of selling and what I had been offered and he said no prob and offered me the above, so I know the car has some value and you know it will be on his forcourt for around £17k.

He does the service and looks after it so he knows the car.

I did a search on the Autotrader and you cant get a 964 C4 for less than £16k

I was hoping for around £15k to do the trade in so in answer to the question I would let it go for £14k-15k

I need to get down and see the 993 firsts to make sure its worth the agro of selling a car that I know for one that I don't.

Are you ineterested Lee I'm in Peterborough.

Guest · Aug 9, 2004

In answer to the 996 question. I think they are different cars, the 993 for me is the best one in terms of looks build and its air cooled with round lights. the 997 is smart but way off my price range.

996 is nice but as as suggested, a Porsche for the mass market along with the box. All nice cars but not for me!

993 seems like the best one, 6 speed, air bags, stuff sorted out by prosche - nice. i want one bad!!!

John Miles · Aug 10, 2004

So why don't you sell it yourself?
You know trade ins are a rip off.
John

Guest · Aug 12, 2004

Yes John, I was thinking about this. But you know there will just be a load of tyre kickers and T**ts ring up about it if I main stream ad it.

If I advertise on here I'm then waiting for someone to want a 91 C4 (no leather) could be quick could be a long wait and i really wanted it do quick.

Guest · Aug 18, 2004

You are right about the type of people that you can get visiting your house to view a car for sale. When I sold my 944 Turbo privately I had the mis fortune to waste a whole afternoon with a complete loser who then tried to re-negotiate the price on the day of collection. Needless to say - I told him never to darken my door again! I put it back on the market and went through the same mill again although this time it sold sucessfully...... only to be followed up with a phonecall telling me that he'd blown the head gasket over his first weekend of ownership and that he wanted me to help pay for it.
My point is..... I got a significant £3.5K more than my highest trade-in offer but you have to weigh up the pro's and cons! I think the offer you've received is way too low and you should be able to get a bit closer to the amount he'll put it up for.

Guest · Nov 5, 2004

you need to understand that a dealer sees you as being in a position of weakness if you are trying to px you're car, they are working on the basis that you will be "hooked" on that particular model, and because of this you will do the deal, and alot of people do! this is how they make there money! they make on the car there selling and on you're car so they win both ways!! The only way to win with a dealer is to go in with cash and screw them to the ground!! Not all buyers are bad, and any hassle you get will make it all the more sweet when you see the dealers salesmen squerming for you're money.

Ant.

Melv · Nov 5, 2004

964 depreciation? Bought my 964C4 at an OPC, sold it privately after six years, £1600p.a.

964RS's and their ilk are increasing in value -nice to have an appreciating asset tucked away in the garage for a change!! [

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Mel

Guest · Nov 26, 2004

Whoever said a 993 C4S will still fetech £50k...only at Specialist Pirates of Malton....

My 964 experience was decent - paid £16k in Oct 2000 for an 82k miles tiptronic. Seller was in a hurry and PPI indicated a £1500 spend on wishbones, oil pipes, brakes & service. Sold 3 months ago for....£15.5k. Depending on whether you view my purchase price as £16k or £15.5k, I've 'lost' £500 or £2k in 3.5 yrs and 24000 miles of BRILLIANT ownership.

to put things in perspective, an OPC offered me £11k for the car against a £57k GT3! - it was a deal breaker!

If you are hung up about the depreciation, keep th e964. The looks different, but drives virtually the same anyway - its not like you're moving into a TT or anything markedly different. If you want to maximise your position, sell the 964 privately and then when you have the cash in your hands, buy a 993 privately.

Guest · Dec 2, 2004

IMHO this is a really interesting thread - I've got a 3.2 and quite fancy upgrading to a 964 next year but I'm worried about going from a car I know to one that I don't.

Within the last 2 years (rahter unfortunately) I've had to have my engine rebuilt, new heat exchangers, new brake disks/pads, a new ECU and a new clutch.

If I went in search of a 964 I worry that all this could need doing again. Also, when I think about how much I would get for my car and what I would need to pay for a 964 it almost becomes a cost prohibitive exercise.