968 Prices

[John H]

Just looked again at the cabrio advertised on ebay.

If you are going to look at this one, ask about the wheels. 18" wheels on a cabrio may look cool, but they won't do much for the ride. Highly unlikely they are genuine Porsche wheels, which means they will be cheaper replicas, which are heavier. Ask why they were fitted, and what became of the originals (like were they damaged?) and are they avalable with the car.

Presumably by now you know all the other things to ask ... service history, when were the belts last done, have the cams been checked, has the cam chain been changed, etc etc.

Best of luck

John H

 

[silky_spencer]

Cheers for the additional info John.

I did enquire as to the original wheels and was told the car was bought with them and the originals weren't available.
As to the belts he recons last changed over three years ago.
£240 to get changed and tensioners checked out etc so don't think I shoud be put off by it. As I beleive mentioned on another thread always handy to keep a bit extra aside just incase.

Roll on Sunday when we go to view it. Hoping my old girl will be back on the road for the ride up there!

Thanks again.

Andrew

 

[chfs911]

I am looking for a nice yellow CS with Recaros, colour coded Cup 1s, cc seatbelts and gear gaiter with no sunroof. I am happy to pay arouuund 10K but apart from a nice 150K RHD car that sold for £8K prices seem to be a bit steep.

I missed a LHD with excellent history on PH and so the search continues. I have my eye on some cars in Germany as a M030 spec car with harness and cage is less than £12K there.

Don't get me wrong there are some nice cars for sale but they don't shift very quickly by the looks of things.

Alternative is to buy a RS2 which can be had for the same sort on money. Not an easy choice!

Charles

 

[Guest]

Charles, £10k will not get a decent RHD CS but you will find plenty LHD at that price. CC seatbelts and gaiter were not OEM options, so you must have seen one with aftermarket parts there. CC wheels - I wouldn't worry about as most cars at that price will need wheel refurbs anyway, and it is cheap to do. Cars with no sunroof are extremely rare in the UK and almost certainly imports if you do see one. Prices at the bottom end have certainly firmed up. Cars for 8k are rare...

There are a lot of cars for sale at the moment that are not shifting. This wasn't the case just a few months ago, but it goes in cycles. It is certainly a buyers market currently so take your time. For £13k there is a very nice red RHD CS being sold by the MD of Recaro UK at the moment - it is a great car that needs nothing doing to it.

As for an RS2, I don't know if you have been to see any at the 10-12k price, but I would wager that they are sheds. I have seen a few (I'm a fan too) but decent ones are few and far between. Running costs are also in a different league to the 968. Decent cars are more like £14k plus....

Try the forum at www.porsche968uk.co.uk for more info on cars for sale etc. Many cars for sale are "known".

 

[chfs911]

The running costs put me off the RS2 so looks like it will be a CS. Must be in Yellow. The reason for no sunroof is I am tall an need the space with bucked seats and helmet.

I like the red car you refer to as it has been well looked after. It is Red though which is a no no. I have a Red RS already.

I am still kicking myself as to missing out on Andy Fearns old CS. Just what I was after. It was well maintained and only 10K.

Another one here.
http://www.alexandersmotorcompany.co.uk/carpages/31.htm

Anybody know this car?

There are some nice cars in 10-12K region in Germany so will have a look in Sept when I am out. Thank for you reply

Charles

 

[Guest]

No, I don't know that one, although it looks familiar. Got to be worth closer investigation at that price. I can't see whether it has a sunroof or not. I can see your reasoning - I wasn't aware that the sunroof robbed headroom that much. Maybe you should just run on the track with the roof up? Much cooler that way too... You will seriously limit your options if you go for no sunroof, I reckon. Germany will give you much more scope.

 

[chfs911]

I think the early cars were the only real CSs with no add ons. Some later cars quote all sort of useless bids that add weight.

I have found a M030 for 11K!!!
:O)

 

[Guest]

Charles,

Hi [] Any more details on your (intended) purchase ? Obviously I am completely biased (owning a coupe) but I think any perceived extra performance in the CS model is more likely due to the lack of sound proofing rather than any weight savings. After all (IIRC) the weight savings would negated as soon as you add a passenger!

The CS must hold a record for deperciation when cars are selling now for £15k when they cost less than £30k new.

Chris

 

[jason]

ORIGINAL: chris_p_holdsworth

The CS must hold a record for deperciation when cars are selling now for £15k when they cost less than £30k new.

Chris

I don't know Chris, 993 turbos and 993RSs seem to be going for what they were new - if not more these days!

Something tells me that CS's will always hold good prices because of the fact they are CS's (whatever the few differences are) and somehow, as Boxster prices keep dropping, those that want 'creature comforts' will be persuaded to go the boxster route (if you don't need 4 seats)?!

Just seen an immaculate low mileage boxster 3.2S for less than 20k...but I'll be keeping my CS for now []

 

[chfs911]

Chris,

I have just emailed you before taking the plunge to have a closer look at a 968. Agree 50% depreciation is world class. My 964 RS is better ;O)

For 10-12K I think they are good value but get to 14-15K and you can get some very nice 964s with full rebuilds. Silver K reg on Autotrader. I am biased and would always prefer a classic shape air cooled car and £56K motor over £29K watercooled CS.

Probably should not be saying that here though! 10K for LHD CS or 11K for M030 sounds reasonable if they are in good nick. Hope to meet you soon to play at Porsches!

Charles

P.S. Bring the car round one evening and I will tell my wife I have taken delivery of my new car ;O) Should be a laugh!

 

[Guest]

Chris is right - the whole CS thing is a bit of a myth. It was a way cheaper car when new for a reason, but regardless it will always carry a premium. The Sport is an oddball in that it seems to sit closer to CS values than Coupe values, but the differences between it and the other types is negligible. It has some reflected glory from the CS but is a better car to live with, so it is the best bet for most people. It really depends what the buyer is looking for - there is something for everyone within the range and fortunately there are many types of buyer.

I'm not sure I can work out what you are after though Charles. I can't see why you would want a CS when you have an RS in your stable already!? It will be an easier car to drive fast and well I reckon, but ultimately not as rewarding on track. They are in different leagues really...

Anyway, I think that percieved 968 values are a bit of a myth too - unfortunately Chris I don't think cars are actually selling for £15k. There are loads about for less now, so I doubt many are fetching £15k regardless of the asking price. I had agreed a sale on mine for £15k a few months ago, but backed out for a variety of reasons - I am beginning to think I should have taken the chance!

For 10-12K I think they are good value but get to 14-15K and you can get some very nice 964s with full rebuilds. Silver K reg on Autotrader. I am biased and would always prefer a classic shape air cooled car and £56K motor over £29K watercooled CS.

You can get some 964's, sure, but very nice? You also get 964 running costs, less practicality, less rarity value, a slower car point to point ....[] But I know what you mean, I am still a big fan of 911's.

 

[chfs911]

I am after Corrado replacement. I have had various Corrados for the last 15years but always hankered after the Club Sport. Not as practical in the winter but with snow tyres it should be fun.........

RS is track weapon of choice but a CS for when it is raining would be nice.

Wife has a Green Lupo(very bright) I have a red RS so a yellow CS would make a nice set of...........


Traffic Lights for the driveway ;O)

 

[Andy Roe]

It's a bit pricey at £15K, but have you looked at the Yellow CS that Oakhills have for sale? http://www.oakhills.co.uk
Just had new clutch & brakes fitted, and already has the six point harnesses for the track days - that's something to bear in mind at least!

I've no affiliation with them, but have bought two nice 964's from Dan who runs the place. If no good, then good luck in the quest...!

Andy

 

[Guest]

The Oakhills car has sold apparently.

 

[Guest]

Hi,

If you change your mind re the RS2 I know of a very well looked after "ragussa"? green here in Scotland which I am sure Chris could vouch for...Phil's car !!

Incidentally there are loads of "sheds" out there in CS land - I tried to buy a yellow CS for 9 months and looked at loads - in the end bought a Sport which was a great car however with hindsight should not have as it was too close to previous car (944 S2).

Incidentally 2: Phil also has a 968 CS so might be worth having a chat a with him.

Drop me a line and I will forward his details to you...

Regards,
Kevin

 

[Guest]

Kevin,

Hi. 993 ? What happened to the M3. Tell us more about your new steed []

 

[John H]

Indeed Kevin, what's all this 993 stuff?

[]

 

[Guest]

Chris / John,

M3 although a great car it got no soul man....so it had to go ...[8D]!!

In truth we took Maureen's Mini Cooper to Ireland and it was superb which made us realise the we did not really need to keep the M3 anymore ... being surrounded by 993 etc in Ireland did not really help...

Came home and tried to find buyer for M3 and me a new 993 - bought Ocean Blue 993 2S M3 as part ex....

Knockhill on Wednesday ?

Chris - you and the family are always welcome, ditto to you John...

Cheers
Kevin

 

[juliany27]

Kevin

Oddly enough your explanation strikes a chord. Had a lovely Jaguar X-type 3 litre SE but it had no soul and I had no involvement with the car when I drove it. I tested a number of cars including the Audi TT 225 and ended up with the Boxster - have not regretted it so far. My first Porsche and, subject to money, not my last.

Good luck and many happy miles with the new car.

 

[John H]

Good choice Kev, look forward to seeing the car.

Just come back from ablast round the north of Scotland with a friend who has just bought a new Boxster (987 version), very impressive, but it almost left me with renewed respect for my trusty old 964. []

John H