987.1 or 987.2

[Motorhead]

Yes, that was a lucky escape Dylan; and not the first. A while ago a Club member had some minor scoring picked up during our Regional outing to a local Indy when he put his Gen1 CS up for inspection, although the car wasn't exhibiting any problems. Shortly afterwards he traded it for a Gen2 CS at his local Porsche Centre who quite clearly weren't aware of the problem and it's not something that would be picked up by Porsche's 111-point check for the next purchaser, although they would have the benefit of the 2-year extended warranty.

I've spoken to a few Club members over the years who've had to have expensive rebuilds on Boxsters, Caymans and 911s but considering the number of cars out there you'd have to consider them unfortunate. It's just the luck of the draw.

Jeff

 

[Craiglm68]

This might help with the bore score bit.... https://www.porscheinspections.com/content/downloads/M96_M97_GTPorsche.pdf

 

[blaster56]

Dylan, as a matter of interest, what do you call "lots of oil” ?

andrew

 

[blaster56]

Sorry, Dyllan . Typo.

 

[Dylan1]

You were correct first time !! It’s dylan ,the dyllan is my password/handle as dylan was already taken!!

the oil usage was about a pint every 350 miles
I gather some 987 use a bit of oil but my previnous 987 cayman s used almost zero oil over the 3 yrs from new and 18k miles so it was a big shock for me !!
But after rebuild it was fab
cheers
dylan

 

[blaster56]

Thanks. Mine does use oil but probably 1/4-1/3 of that. im inclined to have it borescoped for peace of mind. Rebuild would be great but the cost not so great !
andrew

 

[Boxxster]

Just to add my pennies worth, and my experiences as a first time Boxster (and Porsche) owner I have had a Gen 1 3.2S 2005 for the last 6 years, it had 27k on the clock when I got it and now on 51K. The only issue it has had is a failed water pump, which are reputedly not brilliant even the genuine Porsche ones (which I had fitted). I have experienced no other issues and still drives absolutely beautifully and apart from that water pump it has been very reliable and enjoyable . I also think the secret to keeping a vehicle in the best condition mechanically is to use the car regularly, mine is taken out rain or shine , winter / summer every week or 2 and is warmed up properly and not abused - and not tracked either .

Interestingly I attended the 987 Technical session (which was brilliant and highly informative with some very very knowledgeable guest speakers ) , and some of the highlights I took away was that the experienced Porsche Specialists and Porsche reps presenting said that bore scoring and IMS issues on 987s were NOT a major issue in terms of the number of cars impacted and bore scoring specifically was more of a risk for the 3.4 models (I am guessing some people may challenge that) Yes there is a chance of failure but it is not impacting the percentage of cars that the Internet would have you believe. IMHO , as with any car you should buy the best you can(I did, even though it was older than some cars (and I avoided the 3.4s), having just left the OPC network with all invoices from day 1, full OPC history, and it has wanted for nothing) .

If you can afford a Gen 2 then it will potentially be a better buy , as Porsche is the master of constant model evolution in my view (although hat stopped with the 981 as I am not a fan of the flat four 718 ...) , but I truly don't believe that should put you off a really Good Gen 1 as long as it has a lot of verifiable history - not just a stamped book (that in is definitely not a Service History unless it can be verified, and why would someone not handover invoices unless they have something to hide...) .

The Gen 1 is still a magnificent car to own and drive , mine is a keeper , I don't believe you can beat them for the money that a good one fetches .

 

[Motorhead]

.....but I truly don't believe that should put you off a really Good Gen 1 as long as it has a lot of verifiable history - not just a stamped book (that in is definitely not a Service History unless it can be verified, and why would someone not handover invoices unless they have something to hide...) .

Chris,

I may be wrong but I believe that dealers aren't allowed to hand over any documentation - to preserve previous owner privacy? Of course, a private seller can choose whether or not to pass on such information.

Jeff

 

[Boxxster]

That's a fair point, jeff, although when I bought mine from a dealer (specialist not main) they handed over all invoices from new (in my view this adds significant value and resellability - if that is a word....) , I am sure that is a Data Protection Issue these days, but without it I would not have purchased.

 

[Beaky]

and bore scoring specifically was more of a risk for the 3.4 models (I am guessing some people may challenge that) Yes there is a chance of failure but it is not impacting the percentage of cars that the Internet would have you believe. IMHO , as with any car you should buy the best you can(I did, even though it was older than some cars (and I avoided the 3.4s), having just left the OPC network with all invoices from day 1, full OPC history, and it has wanted for nothing) .

The Gen 1 is still a magnificent car to own and drive , mine is a keeper , I don't believe you can beat them for the money that a good one fetches .

I was also lead to believe that bore boring affected the 3.4, and strangely the Cayman more than the Boxster.

My son has a late 2005 3.2S, 101k miles, used no oil and still pulls like a train.

If you have a good one, keep it their brilliant cars

 

[Craiglm68]

i heard the same re Boxster S V Cayman S gen 1 (one mechanic speculated it might be cooling related.....he was having a blind guess methinks?), but irrespective, it's well under 1 in 10 cars impacted either way. And after test driving about 14 cars (mix of Boxster and CS), I whole heartedly agree; pick a good 'un, and you've a fabulous car to own and drive for years, gen 1 or 2 (note that some stories are starting to appear re the odd scoring issue appearing on 991 cars....)