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996 Turbo range - advice please.

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hothatch2002

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I used to have a 996 C4 a year ago, and now looking out for a turbo. What are the important things to look out for, was there a "facelift" at any point, engine upgrades? Do they suffer from the same RMS problems that the other 996s do.
Are there any "common faults" to look out for?

Many thanks

Simon
 
i too am looking at purchasing 996 tt. Is a Jan04 registered tt with 53 plate an MY04 X50 model ? Also i presume it will be PCM 2. What would you say is a fair price to pay for this car ? 30k miles, all the extras, fpsh. It is my first venture into the world of porsche's so any advice would be greatly appreciated
 
I had the 111 point check done by Porsce on this 996tt mentioned in previous mail. Was astounded by items that came up, corroded heat shields, radiators leaking, rear brakes badly corroded, gear shift on tip stiff. The car has recently been serviced by Porsche, so why weren't these things mentioned/rectified then ? Are Porsche being over cautious to cover themselves on warranty front ? The car is an 04 reg with 30k miles, only 500 miles done in last 6mths. Owner spends half his time abroad. Car is garaged at all times. Seems a bit odd to me. Any thoughts pls?
 
Corroded Heat shields - No big deal at all, get them replaced for very little (not covered by warranty hence not necessary to be fixed to get the warranty)
Rear disks corroded - Again get the parts from Eurocarparts and get an indi to fit them. (Not covered by warranty and not necessary to be fixed to get the warranty)
Gear shift on tip stiff: Again no big deal, usually just requires adjusting of the linkage.
Leaking radiators: This will be more costly, get a quote from an indi.

The previous owner may or may not have been told about all/some of these items (have a look at the printout of his last service) he may have just declined the work to be done.

These are not deal breakers, but do ask for a discount for all the work required.

 
Thx for the response. I think as it stands Porsche would not issue a warranty on the car. Also, the tyres are not all N standard and they say there is oil leak which needs further investigation. Nail in one of the tyres, battery not porsche one. What would you say was a fair price to pay for a 996tt early 03 to early 04 reg with around 25k miles on clock, full spec without any major problems ?
 
What are the details of the oil leak? Rear main seal? That would be a ~£1k gearbox out job (although the seal itself costs less than £10)
The battery is not covered by the warranty so you do not have to change it. Many owners change the existing battery as it drains very quickly to a higher Amperage one, this may be the case here.
You would have to get the radiator/oil leak and perhaps the tip lever situations fixed before they would offer a warranty.
The tyres should all be of the same 'N' rating on each axle and preferably all 4 should be the same.
Check for tyre prices on www.mytyres.co.uk

As for price...they range from 70k for an '03 with 17k on the clock (dealer) to 52k for an '03 27k miles fully loaded with warranty (private)...or you could go to 48k for an '03 with 37k on the clock........big range. Have a look on Pistonheads or Autotrader.
 
To be honest considering your new information, unless it's very keenly priced, I wouldn't bother, unless you can reduce the price by a couple of thousand to cover the items mentioned. There are so many out there to choose from.
 
Well the guys willing to sell it for 52k. Jan04 reg 996tt tip 30k miles fully loaded, but I have to pay for warranty (£895) and have already paid for inspection. I agree don't get good feeling about it. I have been looking on various websites for one, there aren't many around with mileage less than 30k, 03 reg or newer full spec, sat nav, heated, electric/memory seats, sunroof, pcm, rear park sensors etc around early £50k price. There is another one that i have seen, that the guy is getting inspected for me (from small dealership) by porsche, early 03 52 reg with 24k miles for £52k with porsche warranty. Also has cat d tracker which i'm told should help on insurance. I think that is reasonable price provided it gets all clear on inspection. What do you think?
 
FYI these cars are bullet proof, the engine has a racing pedigree, mileage is not a real issue. How long do you intend to own the car, and how many miles do you intend to put on it?

I saw on Pistonheads a month back 2 996 tt tips with around 45-50k asking around £39k.They were MY01 cars tho.

You can get the waranty and have it serviced elsewhere no problem. You can get most of your consumables and parts from www.Eurocarparts.com.

The last one you mentioned sounds a fair deal tho.

Good luck
 
I will probably keep the car 2-3 years. Mileage wise i will prob only do around 6k miles per annum. I thought if you take out Porsche warranty you have to have car serviced by them too. Also, are the parts eurocarparts supply original porsche ? I'm guessing not and if that's the case would that not also invalidate the porsche warranty? From speaking to people the porsche warranty (£895) although more expensive is more comprehensive than other warranties. They also give you porsche breakdown cover in that price which for a specialist car i guess is worth having.
 
If you take out a Porsche warranty you do not have to have the car serviced by them. A few people on PCGB don't and have had no problems.
Eurocarparts do supply Original Porsche parts, and also OE parts at a big discount. I often use OE parts (pads/disks etc) and I have the Porsche warranty and never had any problems. In fact I have non standard aftermarket HID lights and an aftermarket sports exhaust and the service people never bat an eyelid. In fact they actually adjusted my headlights FOC during my service as they were projecting a bit low.

The Porsche warranty is probably the best on the market (another good one can be found at Hartech - http://www.hartech.org/lifeplan.html) as it has no excess and no upper limit. It covers most of the important components and as you say provides Europe wide breakdown service. It is a good idea to take one out.

As you are not going doing a lot of miles per year, if you are so inclined, you could have a look at cars with higher mileage and slightly older.....especially as you will be further down the depreciation curve. There aren't major differences between the earlier models and the later ones.
 
At a guess on an '04 at £52k around £4-5k for the 1st year, maybe £3-4k for the next (assuming 6k miles and that you sell privately).
 
The one i'm looking at is an 03 52 reg. The other one i have discarded after the issues from inspection. The 03 52 reg has 24k miles on clock, black, black leather, sat nav, electric/heated/memory seats, rear park sensors, sunroof, pcm, tracker, aluminium trim, 3 owners fpsh, 52k with porsche warranty. It is being inspected tomorrow, so barring any probs will prob go for it. Does it sound reasonably priced ? I saw an 01reg with 41k miles and that was 42k, so i guess they depreciate around 4k per year. Thought they held their value a bit better than that.
 
Sounds fair value. Is it being sold privately or through a dealer?
FYI Porsche warrantys are invalidated if sold through a dealer, but they are transferable if sold privately.
 
well it is being sold by small dealership that only does high end cars. They are getting the 111 point check and warranty done for me. Basically, they are dropping the car to Porsche main dealer for 111 point check and then i guess they will get warranty from Porsche in my name should i proceed with purchase. Is this usual?
 
Not sure that they can get the warranty in your name (in fact I am sure you can't) as you now have to be there to sign in person due to recent legislation. They will be able to get it in another name and then transfer to you but this takes time.

You will also not see which parts of the 111pt inspection pass but are borderline and need looking at sooner rather than later unless you get a copy of the inspection report.

As it is only a 111pt inspection is obviously does not cover items which are not covered by the warranty such as body work (panel damage/repair etc), brakes, tyres etc. This would only be identifed by a PPI.

Nothing unusual and it was how I bought mine hence I know about the warranty etc.
 
Here is a link to the Porsche warranty and 111 point inspection details
http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=232940
They do look at several items not covered under the warranty.
When I got my warranty I didn't sign anything (last March, same again when I got it renewed this March - unless the rules have changed since?), I just gave them my credit card details over the phone serveral weeks after the 111 point inspection had taken place. Either way, there is no rush to get the warranty straight away. Have Porsche or the dealer give you the details of the inspection, have a good look, then get the warranty if everything is ok.
 
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