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ORIGINAL: bluffield

ORIGINAL: Grant

Why does it have to be Bl**ding great 4WD that won't hold any more people than a nice Audi RS4 saloon or Avant.

As i said, we need the height in the back, which no estate has compared with RRover, ML , XC90, which you would have figured out if you had read my prior post. In fact your post suggests a SALOON as an alternative... hmmm... getting a large dog, plus my family... and luggage into an RS4 saloon woud be a tricky proposition given that my name is not Paul Daniels. Oh... and there's a clue in my address... "Old Woodside Farm".

My SEAT Alhambra should swallow that lot - not exactly a great driving experience though [:'(]

Pete
 
A whinge about 4X4's struck me as rather odd on 997 forum, given that the 911 is neither eco-friendly nor modest. Kettles and black spring to mind...or was it some kind of veiled reference to the types of people that drive 4X4's ? Maybe the Cayenne drivers have a view ?
 
For headroom and real practicality you can't beat a 'pick up'. Cheap, fun and huge load capacity (depending on what configuration you go for). I never understood what the Americans saw in them until I bought an old Hilux[8D].
 
an interesting alternative... and the one that Clarkson couldn't destroy ! do u get 4 seats tho [&:]
 
ORIGINAL: bluffield

an interesting alternative... and the one that Clarkson couldn't destroy ! do u get 4 seats tho [&:]

You get four seats if you go for an extended cab version - I was thinking of going this way when our Alhambra expires (not that it is showing any signs of that yet)

There is also a tax advantage if you have one as a company car, which is why you are now seeing luxury versions with airco, CD satnav etc [;)]

Pete
 
thx for the info. My wife is thinking about getting another (large) dog, which would mean space even more important. ps. with the mileage on your car, you need to think about chaning it in the next 75k [:)]
 
ORIGINAL: bluffield

thx for the info. My wife is thinking about getting another (large) dog, which would mean space even more important. ps. with the mileage on your car, you need to think about chaning it in the next 75k [:)]

Do 993's start to go wrong at 250,000 miles then [:D] (tempting fate..)

I'm going on holiday to Canada this month, and have rented a big 4x4 pickup (about as environmentally unfriendly as it gets..) they are great for putting camping gear, dirty mountain bikes etc in the back, a couple of large dogs would be no problem

Cheers

Pete
 
Just for fun, no serious intent.......
Sorry but can't stand big 4WD lumps, unless of course they are used off road, in which case all becomes clear, if you live on a farm and fit off road tyres then hey you could be someone that actually needs one.
It is nothing to do with being green, having driven a good number I found they are simply horrible to drive, seem to have less space than a saloon in most cases, don't offer decent ride comfort, take up 3/4 of the road, guzzle fuel for England, most go like slugs, unsafe centre of gravity, look ugly & I could go on all day, the only positive is the high driving position. 95% of people that drive them appear to do so as a fashion statement (yes really), the last one I tried was a top of the range V8 jeep thing, I simply could not believe how bad it was to drive or how small the interior was compared to an estate!! Of course there exceptions!
I just thought if it is slower, doesn't handle as well, offers less interior space than an estate, is less comfortable, drinks more fuel, it doesn't make a very logical case for itself when deciding on a new car, unless you go off road!

But each to their own & if you want one who am I to argue, enjoy, that is what makes the world go around different strokes for different folks!!! And clearly it must be me that is out of step as there are so many around, so I will go & sit quietly in my padded room again!
Give me a fabulous classy estate any day of the week, RS4 Audi, AMG Merc or similar mmmmm!
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MMMMM!

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YUK !!!!
 
My wife and i used to hate 4X4's and said we'd never get one. Then we got a dog and decided to try one. When we looked around, i was very surprised that despite the exterior size, most had very limited room in the boot area. We tried the RRover, Discovery etc, and it felt like one was driving a small mountain around place. But i must say the new Merc is very impressive to drive, it drives like a sports saloon. Service from the franchise on the other hand is crap. It's also the case that my wife really likes driving it, and feels "safe". But then she doesn;t like driving my car, so her judgement has to be caled into question! One of the downsides is that most people hate them , and feel quite at liberty to knock and scrape it when they park near it.
 
I've found the Cayenne to be a great family car - it'll get two boys to and from boarding school with all their gear - no mean feat, has been subjected to countless runs to the tip in the course of house renovations, is currently in Spain after a two day 1200 mile run, and comes up fresh as a daisy with a coat of Swissol despite living outside in all weathers. Now done over 55k miles and apart from a rear suspension bush replacement to get through the MOT has been totally reliable. A couple of electrical niggles and one or two recalls are all to report.

Personally I love driving it as it's so much more wieldly than the Range Rover and handles really well for a big vehicle. So does Lesley, and she also enjoys the 911 (she's an excellent driver it has to be said).

With the huge depreciation on the Cayenne, there's some pretty good bargains around now. Looking at the ads in the Porsche mags I'd be lucky to get in the low twenties for mine. That's the downside for me.

Peter

 
Don't laugh, and they do go round corners very well

www.andyuk911.piczo.com

That was my solution.

Cheap to buy, so you don't loose much and very fast ... about 160mph

Also I have not seen another one on the road yet.
Bet you have not seen one, [:D]


 
I also had the same situation with my partner recentley expecting, after 4 months of her being pregnant it was extremely uncomfortable for her to get in and out of vehicle and whilst hardly any space with belly. So for the last 6 months of ownership family never came in my vehicle (whos complaining - dont tell the wife). I used vehicle 2 months after child was born rear facing seat in back of 911 again not really comfortable for child and also mother that would sit in back with child. I would say get another vehicle to use for the famliy so you dont lose to much on your 997. I went the way of RS4 love the car miss PCGB forum.
 
You'll be pleased to hear that the 997 is not being sold.

Gradually introducing the idea to my wife that she changes her Mini Cooper S for a Golf GTi or similar.
 
I have got to say i agree with Grant on this one, not a lover of 4x4 unless used off road, i was brought up with my father having 911s and my mother having the familiy car it worked perfectly, this is my way forward if i am still lucky enough to own a 911 when i have my own familiy.

Grant - do you now drive an AM?

Cheers Phil
 

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