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997 Turbo - panel fit query

ianbanneville

ianbanneville

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Greetings!

I have a query from a local member who has just taken delivery of his 997 Turbo.

He is unhappy about the bonnet (boot!) fit; the front edge is recessed lower than the front bumper (i.e. is not flush with it). The local dealer initially told him this was for aerodynamics and then because it is aluminium! [&:]

So, can anyone with a 997 Turbo confirm whether the dealer is a) full of insightful knowledge, or b) full of something coming out the back of a cow, by advising whether their bonnet (boot) is indeed below the level of the front bumper or flush?

Thanks


 
Either his is incorrect - or mine is! My tt is a July 07 model and the rear edge of the front bumper and the front edge of the luggage compartment lid are in line.
 
Thanks for your responses guys - I will pass these on.

He is waiting to find out the cause of his oil leak now... [:(]










 
Any one got the sunroof option, mine whistles over 40 and above that you can't hear the bleeding engine. My dealer says they all do that ! Well my sons 996T doesn't. Have checked the seals and all seems fine. Can not see the point of a sun roof if its closed all the time, missing my Boxster I suppose [:D]
 
My 997tt has the sunroof and the OPC sorted out a squeaky trim so now I don't know it's there! Certainly no wind noise - unless I open it. Being a new-ish Porsche owner I am getting somewhat worried about OPCs who seem to talk arrant bs. Panels should line up and sunroofs should not whistle when closed - that is the case in £10k Toyotas - and should certainly be the case for £100k Porsches!

Personally, I very rarely open the roof and I didn't want one, but was advised that deleting it may adversely affect residuals because it is standard in the UK. Seems an expensive potential problem and I will not specify one again if I buy new.
 
ORIGINAL: ianbanneville

Greetings!

I have a query from a local member who has just taken delivery of his 997 Turbo.

He is unhappy about the bonnet (boot!) fit; the front edge is recessed lower than the front bumper (i.e. is not flush with it). The local dealer initially told him this was for aerodynamics and then because it is aluminium! [&:]

So, can anyone with a 997 Turbo confirm whether the dealer is a) full of insightful knowledge, or b) full of something coming out the back of a cow, by advising whether their bonnet (boot) is indeed below the level of the front bumper or flush?

Thanks
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Generally speaking, the majority of OPC's bear a grin and tell you some fancy explanation to keep yo happy, but in this case the front bonnet is indeed not flush with the front PU. This is to prevent any airflow from pulling the bonnet off from underneath.

This is a pic for the same effect on the 987. In this case, Gap B is 2mm. You'll find something similar for each 9x7 model: -

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Regards

Pop
 
My Sunroof certainly doesn't whistle when closed...

Sometimes when open it can buffer a little, cured by pressing the button again which opens the sunroof a further couple of inches..

garyw
 
Sorry, didn't make my self clear, the s/r makes no noise when closed but when on tilt or open the wind noise is very loud. I usually like the s/r on tilt but it makes too much wind noise. Just wondered if other's do it ?

 
ORIGINAL: marlin

Sorry, didn't make my self clear, the s/r makes no noise when closed but when on tilt or open the wind noise is very loud. I usually like the s/r on tilt but it makes too much wind noise. Just wondered if other's do it ?
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IMO the Porsche esr is a waste of money. Just adds weight, complexity and a hole just were you don't want it. And it doesn't really work. Open it and it causes wind noise and turbulence. Also spoils the clean lines of the roof. Only good point is the tilt mechanism which invites a bit more engine/exhaust note.



 

ORIGINAL: oliver

ORIGINAL: marlin

Sorry, didn't make my self clear, the s/r makes no noise when closed but when on tilt or open the wind noise is very loud. I usually like the s/r on tilt but it makes too much wind noise. Just wondered if other's do it ?
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IMO the Porsche esr is a waste of money. Just adds weight, complexity and a hole just were you don't want it. And it doesn't really work. Open it and it causes wind noise and turbulence. Also spoils the clean lines of the roof. Only good point is the tilt mechanism which invites a bit more engine/exhaust note.
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Agree
 
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Generally speaking, the majority of OPC's bear a grin and tell you some fancy explanation to keep yo happy, but in this case the front bonnet is indeed not flush with the front PU. This is to prevent any airflow from pulling the bonnet off from underneath.

This is a pic for the same effect on the 987. In this case, Gap B is 2mm. You'll find something similar for each 9x7 model: -


Regards

Pop

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Great explanation - thanks!
 
As above - the panel is not flush.
It's been the same for the whole Boxster/996/997 series.

Although I was told it was to prevent the panel "whistling" from the airflow...[&:]



(Edit because I can't type!)
 
ORIGINAL: Mark Bennett

As above - the panel is not flush.
It's been the same for the ehole Boxster/996/997 series.

Although I was told it was to prevent the panel "whistling" from the airflow...[&:]
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That's right, it is intentional. But it should only be minute. Seems to show up more in certain colours/lighting conditions.
 
ORIGINAL: oliver
IMO the Porsche esr is a waste of money. Just adds weight, complexity and a hole just were you don't want it. And it doesn't really work. Open it and it causes wind noise and turbulence. Also spoils the clean lines of the roof. Only good point is the tilt mechanism which invites a bit more engine/exhaust note.
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Firstly I'll apologise for not owning an RS in the first place[;)], but I spec'd the car with a sunroof and quite enjoy having it.. whether it adds more weight is not of a concern to me.. but agree with you in that it must add more weight in the wrong place...
I don't track the car but use it for GT holidays.. where I find it quite a bonus...

marlin, Even with it at a tilt I have no whistling, again a slight buffering at certain speeds, but dropping the window very slightly removes that completely...

garyw
 
Hi Guys,

Thanks for the input.

It is my Jan 2008 997 tt that Ian was asking about as I haven't worked out how to get onto this forum with a picture and signature. A total non tecchie! (If anyone can assist please let me know)

All I can say is that the gap on mine is excessive around 4mm and my recently departed 996 4S had beautiful panel fits everywhere including the front lid! I am not happy but guess I will just have to learn to live with it but any competent body shop should be able to adjust the catch (shim?) to fit better. Something to do when the warrenty is over.

The oil leak which took the car off the road for over a week (no spares locally and incomplete set sent down!) was traced to the oil suction pump and 4 "O" rings were replaced

btw my sunroof is fairly quiet when open

Michael
 
Cannot believe it, my post shows that I am a non member but I have been a member for about 17 years!!

This tech stuff leaves me behind, where is the manual!!?

Michael
 
This appears a common complaint. My 997 2s had this and it can be adjusted by twisting the rubber buffers which push up the bonnet to make it flush. You can do this yourself or get the OPC to fiddle for you. My new turbo is fine and it lines up nicely
 
Thanks,

Sounds reasonable, but while under warranty I won't touch it and the OPC have stated that it is how it should be and have declined to attempt any sort of rectification!

I might visit the factory at some stage and suggest that they do something about it.

 
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