Air conditioning - std or auto
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I have not seen the standard set up but I can tell you the upgraded climate control seems to be a waste of time and money IMO[&o] For example whatever temperature you select and then push AUTO whatever speed the fan kicks in at it never seems to adjust! 10/10 times I find my self manually turning the fan down so I can't fathom what exactly the auto climate control is meant to be doing, unless of course its the operators fault[
] This applies to when using the aircon for cold or hot air. HarryBox4899
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Hmmm...wish i'd asked before i specced this on my forthcoming S. The options i chose are:
Metallic ~ Lapis Blue
Auto Climate
Park Sensors ~ mainly for parking in my tight garage and the missus insisted, although shes propably better at parking that me!
Wind Deflector
Whats your opinions, i'm really beginning to regret not going for the 19" wheels as they look smart. Anyhow the above options took me over my already stretched budget - but did i spend wisely?
Thanks, Harry
Metallic ~ Lapis Blue
Auto Climate
Park Sensors ~ mainly for parking in my tight garage and the missus insisted, although shes propably better at parking that me!
Wind Deflector
Whats your opinions, i'm really beginning to regret not going for the 19" wheels as they look smart. Anyhow the above options took me over my already stretched budget - but did i spend wisely?
Thanks, Harry
Like Harry I am also specing parking sensors and wind deflector in addition to 18 inch rims, sports wheel and heated seats. My only dilema is whether to have auto aircon as recommended by the dealer or manage with the standard (which used to be an option) system. I know it will only save a few hundred pounds but like Harry my budget is already fully stretched.
Paul
Paul
IMO For re-sales the auto aircon will be worth getting. I think the difference between the two is in the auto you select the temp press Auto and it gets you there....it will try to get you there as quickly as possible, hence, as Daro suggests, the fan usually goes to max, but then slows down and stops as you get to your desired temp.
But to be honest, I very rarely use it except for a quick demist....it's just too noisy running at max for as long as it does.
But to be honest, I very rarely use it except for a quick demist....it's just too noisy running at max for as long as it does.
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] Rodney snap. I guess thats why its has never worked for me either as I turn the fan down way before the auto ever wants too. I have experimented letting it run its course but obviously not for long enough as it never seems to reach the desired temp and reduce fan speed within my patience barrier hence my concluding its a bit of a waste of do$h[]HarryBox4899
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Its only a few hundred pounds i know, but you would think climate would be standard on a 30-40k car in any case. I did ask the salesman if the climate could be 'thrown in' at no cost like a dealer discount, his face was a picture, he looked like i'd just farted in his face, lol, but if you dont ask you dont get......and erm...i didnt get!
Harry
Harry
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I ordered my 987 in August for March '06 delivery and decided to go for the standard air con. On every car I've owned having full climate control I've always ended up adjusting the temp & fan speed manually anyway. In my opinion full climate is a waste of money.
I settled on the following spec:-
Midnight Blue
Blue Roof
Stone Grey Leather
Heated Seats
Wind Deflector
Sports Package
Sound Package Plus
Wheel Centres
18" Boxster S Alloys
Std Air Con!!!
Can't wait -The Dr!.
I settled on the following spec:-
Midnight Blue
Blue Roof
Stone Grey Leather
Heated Seats
Wind Deflector
Sports Package
Sound Package Plus
Wheel Centres
18" Boxster S Alloys
Std Air Con!!!
Can't wait -The Dr!.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but not only is it very noisy for far too long, it also won't work if the outside temperature is too low because A/C doesn't work in cold temperatures. So if you want to get your car warm in the winter, pressing Auto will sometimes do nothing, and you'll end up having to resort to adjusting it manually anyway.
Having said that....do you get the digital display with the regular A/C or the manual controls? If it means paying a coupe of hundred for the nice digi control I'd do that on aesthetic grounds alone [8|]
Having said that....do you get the digital display with the regular A/C or the manual controls? If it means paying a coupe of hundred for the nice digi control I'd do that on aesthetic grounds alone [8|]
garyw
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I have climate control (auto) on mine and yes the fans do go flat out at the start whether hot or cold, its only seems to be on a reasonable length journey that you find it working as you hoped.
Over a journey through France the temperature remained at the preset and I didn't have to alter it, from high passes at 17 degrees down to lowlands at 24degree it remained the same.
It does the same on a north -south drive, but on local shortish trips it never gets to operate correctly. i.e. Fans going flat out and Yes I turn the speed down..[&:]
As your looking at an open top, I would consider how often you have the roof down, as obviously it wil never be able to maintain constant temperatures with the roof down.
I would have AC without a doubt on an open top, just for the demisting capabilities, let alone a cold breeze in your face on a hot day and the roof down []
garyw
Over a journey through France the temperature remained at the preset and I didn't have to alter it, from high passes at 17 degrees down to lowlands at 24degree it remained the same.
It does the same on a north -south drive, but on local shortish trips it never gets to operate correctly. i.e. Fans going flat out and Yes I turn the speed down..[&:]
As your looking at an open top, I would consider how often you have the roof down, as obviously it wil never be able to maintain constant temperatures with the roof down.
I would have AC without a doubt on an open top, just for the demisting capabilities, let alone a cold breeze in your face on a hot day and the roof down [
] garyw
Didn't think you were supposed to use a/c with the top down (or windows down for that matter).[:-]
garyw
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Your possibly not supposed too [
] , But I and others I know have been in a situation where its been a wonderful sunny day and the air is very warm, a perfect example is on the trip to Lemans this year, the aircon gives a nice dry cool air in the cabin.Waste of energy I agree, which is possibly why I didn't get a xmas card from Greenpeace[
] but serves an excellent purpose. A situation where the "auto" is a waste of time, which is why we use manual and send the airflow to where we want it.
To add, another thing Auto does is send the air in the direction it needs to to maintain the temperature required..
garyw
[8D]As I like the top down most dry days whether/ weather[
] freezing cold or heatwave hot Gary has a good point on very hot days, top down, windows up and wind deflector fitted you can stay very cool with the air con blasting ice cold air to ones face especially if you are in stop start London traffic type situations but this method is still effective blasting along the motorways. And as Gary said to achieve this one has to manually set the system and by pass the auto climate mode
Hi Harry
With regard to freebies, keep pushing the salesman - an ideal situation is where you are able to make enquiries at 2 different OPC's, and it's just a question of which salesman 'sweetens' the deal the most.
I found that when I mentioned that the Merc garage would offer a few extras FOC on an SLKAMG, I mananged to wrangle coloured wheel crests, mats and a dealer fit 6CD (worth about £350-£400 total) for my 987S.
I did it with my previous 986S too - I got him to agree to a Tequipment boot net plus wheel crests & mats. When he saw how much the boot net (complete with stiffened contoured base to fit the entire rear boot!) actually cost (about £200!), he did go a bit pale, but he honoured the agreement.
Just be firm, remind them of an alternative and give them an incentive like, 'c'mon, to seal the £40k deal you can give these few bits and bobs, surely?'.£400 is only 1% of £40k!
Works every time for me - I never buy a car without some concession from the garage! Remember he wants your cash for his commission - popping toward the end of the month can yield results, as if his sales are down for that month, your purchase will earn him commission to appear on that months pay cheque.
Good Luck!
Rob[]
PS - Always get them to write down any agreed 'extras' on the official spec sheet with 'Free of Charge' in the cost column - no way out then![]
With regard to freebies, keep pushing the salesman - an ideal situation is where you are able to make enquiries at 2 different OPC's, and it's just a question of which salesman 'sweetens' the deal the most.
I found that when I mentioned that the Merc garage would offer a few extras FOC on an SLKAMG, I mananged to wrangle coloured wheel crests, mats and a dealer fit 6CD (worth about £350-£400 total) for my 987S.
I did it with my previous 986S too - I got him to agree to a Tequipment boot net plus wheel crests & mats. When he saw how much the boot net (complete with stiffened contoured base to fit the entire rear boot!) actually cost (about £200!), he did go a bit pale, but he honoured the agreement.
Just be firm, remind them of an alternative and give them an incentive like, 'c'mon, to seal the £40k deal you can give these few bits and bobs, surely?'.£400 is only 1% of £40k!
Works every time for me - I never buy a car without some concession from the garage! Remember he wants your cash for his commission - popping toward the end of the month can yield results, as if his sales are down for that month, your purchase will earn him commission to appear on that months pay cheque.
Good Luck!
Rob[
]PS - Always get them to write down any agreed 'extras' on the official spec sheet with 'Free of Charge' in the cost column - no way out then![
]
Thanks. It sounds like air con is a must but not any real need for the auto feature especially when driving with the top down. Unless anyone can tell me otherwise I think I will drop this from the spec. Also .. is the CD changer worth adding? It seems to me that positioned in the boot it would just be too awkward to switch disks. Any views?
Paul
Paul
HarryBox4899
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Thanks for the advice Rob but the deals done now. Looking back i was a little soft but this is my first Porsche and I didnt know quite what to expect. I'll know next time. The thing I'm looking forward to least is the OPC's estimate of my trade in vehicle - a BMW 325, like I said before he really has got you where he wants you then, I might try and sell it private even and have a hire car till the Porsche arrives.
Cheers, Harry
Cheers, Harry
Hi Harry
Yes, dealing with OPC's is a bit different than BMW centres it has to be said, and they are normally pretty tight - I think the 'private' route to seel your Beemer might be the most efficient. How about getting a PX quote from your local BM garage and then waving that under the OPC's nose? Good luck, and welcome to the Boxster experience - fantastic car!![]
Paulbox- IMHO the auto-climate isn't worth the extra over the standard feature aircon, so I would agree with you on that. The 6-CD stack is well worth it (if you like music) and it all fits neatly under a plastic panel at the top of the front boot. Very easy to get to, doesn't intrude into boot space and very discreet.
Hope this helps with your decision.
Rob
Yes, dealing with OPC's is a bit different than BMW centres it has to be said, and they are normally pretty tight - I think the 'private' route to seel your Beemer might be the most efficient. How about getting a PX quote from your local BM garage and then waving that under the OPC's nose? Good luck, and welcome to the Boxster experience - fantastic car!![
]Paulbox- IMHO the auto-climate isn't worth the extra over the standard feature aircon, so I would agree with you on that. The 6-CD stack is well worth it (if you like music) and it all fits neatly under a plastic panel at the top of the front boot. Very easy to get to, doesn't intrude into boot space and very discreet.
Hope this helps with your decision.
Rob
HarryBox4899
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Thanks Rob, good idea.
Harry
Harry
Dapster
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Agree with the team here - forget auto climate control as I wish I had done before speccing mine. The 19" wheels are an interesting dilema though -they are expensive, are shod with extremely expensive tyres and probably ride worse than the 18" ones, but they look the absolute dogs danglies and I don't regret ordering mine for a second!
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