Any existing Spyder owners taking 981 Spyder?

[carreraboy]

Targa roof makes so much sense .....

 

[MillerIanF]

ORIGINAL: johnnyspyder*

ORIGINAL: daro911

ORIGINAL: johnnyspyder*

I'm with you on that. For me anything above £65k - including options , will require seriious thought! IMO no Boxster can be worth more

Seriously! A Boxster with more usable performance than say a base 991 Cabrio for £65k+ would surely be a bargain

If you don't need rear seats and bragging rights at the bar then the best handling, riding & looking convertible in the Porsche range is without doubt the Boxster

Not to mention the more pleasing looking dashboard with no sports chrono wart stuck on top of dash roll[&o]

When I had the pleasure of talking to the 986 head of design Harm Lagaay he was keen to explain that unlike the 996, which was an engineering compromise, the 986 with its brilliant new chassis and mid engine lay out was in another league for handling and ride comfort

Perhaps I can be persuaded then - you are not a Porsche sales man are you? If not, perhaps you have missed your vocation !!

Unfortunately the cult status of the 911 has held the Cayman and Boxster back, the success train has been to good to undermine, however progress means Porsche need faster mid-engined cars. The Cayman/Boxster are clearly dynamically superior and we have said for some time that the 911 can't continue to restrict their development. As anticipated Porsche are starting to let the Cayman "of the leach" with the new GT4. On Youtube there are videos of GT3 drivers leaving Spyders on the straights only to be hounded in the corners. In my view the GT4 will be the star in the next couple of years, the 911 will remain a superbly fast and competent prestige car much sought after, but a progressively faster Cayman will be wanted by the out and out driver. Hopefully with every faster Cayman will come a faster Spyder for the open sports car chaps.

 

[tyinsky]

Is it correct that so far there are no specs and no prices being offered up? And as for a Targa roof?!! WTF - isn't the idea to save some weight, not add more? Without seeing the new one I get the feeling it won't compare to the original but maybe only because of all the rumours about it. For me to be interested it would need to be close to the pricing of the original (which it won't be), need to be a limited run (which it might be), and be genuine to the concept (which did not sell well from new so may be softened further?).

 

[daro911]

ORIGINAL: tyinsky

Is it correct that so far there are no specs and no prices being offered up? And as for a Targa roof?!! WTF - isn't the idea to save some weight, not add more? Without seeing the new one I get the feeling it won't compare to the original but maybe only because of all the rumours about it. For me to be interested it would need to be close to the pricing of the original (which it won't be), need to be a limited run (which it might be), and be genuine to the concept (which did not sell well from new so may be softened further?).

Only Targa roof it would or could have is lift off lightweight panels like the Carrera GT or 918 Spyder style of business

Spec / Speculation on Spec is zero so anyone with a Spyder can freely express their wish list which may or may not be near the mark[]

It will be limited edition word on street circa 150 cars spread over 18-24 month production run

Will it be a bespoke body as per the 987 Spyder Unknown

Will it be a lightweight stripped back GTS with token extra 10-15bhp and 10% price increase - I hope not[] but easy enough to do ... smaller petrol tank, bucket seats, no air, no radio, no internal door handles[] flimsy unlined manual folding soft top, lighter weight alloys, go faster side stripes, job done[&o]

 

[johnnyspyder*]

No further news on spec/prices, as far as I am aware. Press seems to be focusing on Cayman GT4. From what I've read about this it seems likely to be more track/race focussed than the "R" was and I can't see this transferring to a convertible very well therefore I think the similarities bewteen it and the new Spyder will not be as great as the 987 versions of both cars.

My OPC did tell me months ago that a new roof had been engineered for the 981 Spyder so this appears to rule out a targa type roof which as you say would add rather than remove weight. I agree with you on the features that would make the new car appeal to me.

 

[flat6]

ORIGINAL: johnnyspyder*

No further news on spec/prices, as far as I am aware. Press seems to be focusing on Cayman GT4. From what I've read about this it seems likely to be more track/race focussed than the "R" was and I can't see this transferring to a convertible very well therefore I think the similarities between it and the new Spyder will not be as great as the 987 versions of both cars.

I agree

I don't think we're likely to see a radically different Spyder recipe for the 981 vs 987, under the same name 'Spyder'. The GT4 is not the R, so no reason to assume the 981 Spyder will have any traits of the GT4, including price. If they were launching a 981 Cayman R then yes we could assume some equivalence would follow in a 981 Spyder because Porsche are quite consistent with their naming conventions.

It's clear why they chose 'R' for the 987 Cayman; because they covet the 'GTx' moniker and the Cayman R didn't go into 'motorsport' development like a GT3 would. I can't see a car without the 'GTx' moniker (i e. Spyder) sharing any ingredients with a car that does, including engine; and a roadster will not be given any 'motorsport' treatment.

(E.g. the 991 GT3 gets a version of PDK that no other 991 gets, not even the turbo S. Likewise the engine is unique to the GT3)

I think taking a Boxster, ditching the roof, doing some other weight saving, include the 'Spyder rear deck ' for weight saving and style, add the Sport Chassis and turning up the 3.4 engine to Carrera level, would create a good road car Spyder package at a reasonable price. If they included the 3.8 engine, upgrade the brakes etc. etc. etc. the price will shoot up. The Spyder is the perfect blend of fun, sportiness, performance, handling, and style and fits into the 'can live with every day' category (so does the R); unlike a GT4 which should thrill when being thrashed to within an inch of its life on track, at the expense of road practicality and comfort.

 

[flat6]

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