53berliner
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The said car is now saying sold, anyone on this forum.
looking at 944 ads they seem to be selling pretty quickly or....
looking at 944 ads they seem to be selling pretty quickly or....
Aquamarine 944s2 at modern car company
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Interesting comments from some members of the forum.
I have been looking for a well maintained red 944 for some months now and viewed at least a dozen cars..
Some of the vehicles I have inspected are priced at the very top end of what I would consider to be the price band for such cars. At this level you would expect the car to have a full service history, bodywork and paint in good condition (Sills replaced and if its red a quality repaint) Can belts etc replaced...Sadly that does not seem to be the case, and the issue now seems to a lack of really good cars available at even these supposed inflated prices (£13t to £15t) Of fundamental concern is the underside of the vehicle and any associated rust which requires remedial action with the need to "let new metal" into the rusted areas to make the vehicle sound, key areas seem to be the back of the front wheel arch and the front of the rear wheel arch etc. Brake pipes are often badly rusted, fuel lines weep and suspension components need attention.
NB...Obviously red is a colour which is particularly problematic, given that the paint is prone to fade (Unlike modern paint finishes that use a lacquer coat)
The issue seems to be that people want top money for vehicles that still need thousands of pounds worth of work on them and should you buy such a car it would make no sense . I have no problem paying top money for a car which is in really good condition and a sound provenance...
Should anyone on the forum have a car which they are considering selling in red, either a lux, S, or an S2 which meets this criteria I would be happy to view the vehicle. I have recently traveled as far afield as Glasgow (Modern Classic Car Co) viewed cars at several dealers in the South East, and several private sellers, but not found anything which meets my criteria ...One club member recently told me that I amy be looking for something that does not exist, but I still hope to find the right car in time...
I have been looking for a well maintained red 944 for some months now and viewed at least a dozen cars..
Some of the vehicles I have inspected are priced at the very top end of what I would consider to be the price band for such cars. At this level you would expect the car to have a full service history, bodywork and paint in good condition (Sills replaced and if its red a quality repaint) Can belts etc replaced...Sadly that does not seem to be the case, and the issue now seems to a lack of really good cars available at even these supposed inflated prices (£13t to £15t) Of fundamental concern is the underside of the vehicle and any associated rust which requires remedial action with the need to "let new metal" into the rusted areas to make the vehicle sound, key areas seem to be the back of the front wheel arch and the front of the rear wheel arch etc. Brake pipes are often badly rusted, fuel lines weep and suspension components need attention.
NB...Obviously red is a colour which is particularly problematic, given that the paint is prone to fade (Unlike modern paint finishes that use a lacquer coat)
The issue seems to be that people want top money for vehicles that still need thousands of pounds worth of work on them and should you buy such a car it would make no sense . I have no problem paying top money for a car which is in really good condition and a sound provenance...
Should anyone on the forum have a car which they are considering selling in red, either a lux, S, or an S2 which meets this criteria I would be happy to view the vehicle. I have recently traveled as far afield as Glasgow (Modern Classic Car Co) viewed cars at several dealers in the South East, and several private sellers, but not found anything which meets my criteria ...One club member recently told me that I amy be looking for something that does not exist, but I still hope to find the right car in time...
924Srr27l
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paulduprey said:
Yes, I don't envy you looking to buy a Classic car in the current climate.
I've spotted many car's for sale which are now displaying selling prices twice and even three times what they were 4 years ago! and they have
not only been used bit also had nothing done to them.
Hence as you say a lot of these cars are really not in my opinion either worth the asking price when you see the condition and service history
(Or lack of it) and then add up the Recommissioning costs.
For sure many traders have jumped on the Wagon to make some Dough on classics, I guess we all have to earn a living but I'd prefer
to buy private and a very honest car that's been used fairly regular and not sat for years etc...
I'd consider a car that's priced reasonable and needs the usual array of Belts, brakes and some bodywork as opposed to an inflated low mileage car that's
sat and done no mileage and needs £3000+ spent on it. The Minters that have had everything done are just staggeringly highly priced.
Good Luck with your Search.
R
i recently took tenure of my "new" s2,,,,,same car a few years ago would have been half the price but its history with every mot and over a 100 sleeves of bills going back to 1990 but car will be painted in the near future,,my choice,,fuel lines,,fuel filter and some minor jobs will make her very nice,,,,I expected for what i paid that the car would need things if i wanted her as nice as my last s2,,
Nearest i have seen to what your looking for is the car which Matt bought,,same car that won concourse a few weeks back,,,
Paul have you considered buying a "solid" 944 then having the relevant work carried out?,,that way you know the all the work will be done to your expectations,,,,
i have a nice car and with work especially cosmetic i should end up with a very nice car,painted by people who know our model,,
Seems prices are going one way,,,,over £13k for a car thats 3 shades of pink will look cheap in another five years if the model keeps increasing in price imho,,,,,,
Very best of luck Paul,,,,,,,jasonp
Edited for correction and info
Nearest i have seen to what your looking for is the car which Matt bought,,same car that won concourse a few weeks back,,,
Paul have you considered buying a "solid" 944 then having the relevant work carried out?,,that way you know the all the work will be done to your expectations,,,,
i have a nice car and with work especially cosmetic i should end up with a very nice car,painted by people who know our model,,
Seems prices are going one way,,,,over £13k for a car thats 3 shades of pink will look cheap in another five years if the model keeps increasing in price imho,,,,,,
Very best of luck Paul,,,,,,,jasonp
Edited for correction and info
Monkeythree
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My Alpine white S2 has had all of the work done which you mention and is available for £10k. How important is it to have a red one?paulduprey said:
53berliner
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paulduprey said:
This the exact reason i didnt mind paying top money for my S2. I didnt want to be spending and wanted a finished car. Good ones are very hard to find and this came up just at the right time. I wasnt to fussy what colour either, quality was my main factor.
What was the red one at the modernclassic car company like. Its says show quality in the ad but sills are incorrect for a start.
simkin911
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I am a big fan of the 944 model but left the scene some 3-4 years ago in favour of a 968. I've owned 5 or 6 944s - various models.
There are always good cars out there but you may have to wait a long time to find the right one for sale at the right time.
Buyers should really be asking all the right questions before travelling including asking for internal sill pictures & pictures of underside. There must be a long list of questions all buyers can ask. You'd also think pre purchase inspections would become fashionable for 944 buyers.
I received a link to reviews relating to a well known 944 trader on cardealerwatchdog from a friend.
I wasn't surprised by some of the reviews but I was astonished to find unhappy buyers complaining they'd bought a £15k 944 unseen and weren't happy with it when it arrived off the transporter. This is total madness!
Good of luck with the search - don't give up! It's great you are able to shift through the rubbish out there without getting caught out.
There are always good cars out there but you may have to wait a long time to find the right one for sale at the right time.
Buyers should really be asking all the right questions before travelling including asking for internal sill pictures & pictures of underside. There must be a long list of questions all buyers can ask. You'd also think pre purchase inspections would become fashionable for 944 buyers.
I received a link to reviews relating to a well known 944 trader on cardealerwatchdog from a friend.
I wasn't surprised by some of the reviews but I was astonished to find unhappy buyers complaining they'd bought a £15k 944 unseen and weren't happy with it when it arrived off the transporter. This is total madness!
Good of luck with the search - don't give up! It's great you are able to shift through the rubbish out there without getting caught out.
wolfie308
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I was the last owner of the turquoise car....I only had it a few weeks and decided to sell it for a £2.2k loss in order to buy another S.2 which I had known for many years for an additional £1k. The main reasons were the history of major works in recent mileage including clutch, torque tube, KW v.3 suspension, 968 CS ARB's, genuine 17" Cup 1 wheels, brake and fuel lines. Belts technically need doing as 4 years but only 4k miles, so not worried for a few months yet. Unmarked bodywork with no rust in places you don't want to see it. Mileage 108k which is on the low side these days for a car in regular use. So here they are, past and current......
Paul..... I fully understand your dilemma....the only reason I had to search for an S.2 was due to the sad loss of my previous red S.2 after 12 years ownership back in May in a no fault motorway incident. Pretty much all the important jobs had been done including OE sills and full paint in recent years, KW's etc, clutch, torque tube. I agree with your recent experiences and wish you well in your search. Good cars are increasingly harder to find as it is to sort the wheat from the chaff.
Paul..... I fully understand your dilemma....the only reason I had to search for an S.2 was due to the sad loss of my previous red S.2 after 12 years ownership back in May in a no fault motorway incident. Pretty much all the important jobs had been done including OE sills and full paint in recent years, KW's etc, clutch, torque tube. I agree with your recent experiences and wish you well in your search. Good cars are increasingly harder to find as it is to sort the wheat from the chaff.
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