At last I belong...

[zcacogp]

ORIGINAL: DivineE
How many times have you grinned uncontrollably at the acceleration of your S2?

Ooooh, I probably had time to grin uncontrollably at least three, if not four times while you were waiting for the boost to build in the turbo. In fact, I probably had time to drive home, put the kettle on, make and drink a cup of tea as well ...

ORIGINAL: DivineE
The 944 turbo - Good things come to those that wait[]

The 944 S2 - Why wait? [] []


Oli.

 

[DivineE]

ORIGINAL: zcacogp

ORIGINAL: DivineE
The 944 turbo - Good things come to those who wait[]

The 944 S2 - Why wait? [] []

You see. Driving a car is.. very much like making love to a beautiful women. Some girls will give you exactly what you want when you want, and that's ok[] but when a women makes you wait, hang on to the anticipation of the good that comes.. Ahh then you know my boy your in for a treat.

 

[zcacogp]

Ummm, in my experience then driving a car is utterly, utterly different to making love to a beautiful woman.

Are you into some very unusual bedroom practices with Mrs DivineE? Possibly better not to answer that one. [8D]

(I just pray that Mrs zcacogp never sees this thread ... she thinks I love the car a bit too much as it is ... )


Oli.

 

[DivineE]

It was a Harry Enfield thing[8D] not meant literally

 

[951Torqing]

Yes definitely in denial. after upgrading from a 2.7 944 to an S2 and then to a Turbo (IMHO) the best of the 944's.
Look in the manual at the Power/Torque curves and compare the Standard S2 to a Standard 250BHP Turbo. Only below 2000rpm is the S2 more Torquey (Power about the same)
Above 2000revs the Turbo has considerably more Torque (and Power). Most Turbo users would not run below 2500 anyway.
The S2 only has the advantage up to 45mph ie the 1st 4 seconds of the journey, as soon as the Turbo is shifted into 2nd it leaves the S2 in its wake.
A suitably modified Turbo can have a greatly increased advantage over the S2, with no lag above 2500rpm
My Turbo continually gives me aching cheeks, not from the seating area though but in Smiles per Miles
Each to his own eh!

 

[MarkK]

I got well and truly smoked by an S2 at Brands a couple of weeks ago in my turbo[]
Oli that was for you,from me.. next time we are in a pub i will have a pint of frosty lager please[]

 

[Frenchy]

Divine,
Sounding like you are a motoring journo there ! though nodding my head when reading, not long until the LM Classic now undecided which chariot to travel in ?
More Turbo boostiness coming to the Turbo S shortly []

 

[ukmastiff]

I'm feeling incredibly let out already []


Love Mas's car love Mas !!!!!!!!! ( in a hetro sort of way please)

 

[DivineE]

ORIGINAL: Frenchy

Divine,
Sounding like you are a motoring journo there ! though nodding my head when reading, not long until the LM Classic now undecided which chariot to travel in ?
More Turbo boostiness coming to the Turbo S shortly []

With all the unexpected findings and therefore work there is no way that my black turbo is going to make it to le-mans this year[][] it's currently sitting as a sorry looking shell with lots of primer covered new metal sections and no engine or gearbox. Its a LONG way from being on the road again. [&o] Don't know why I do it to myself.

However now that this restoration has grown into something ridiculous! There is more than a slight chance at the minute that I might buy another 944T so I can take my time over my project car and do the work myself over a much longer time frame. That way I've got something nice to drive to le-mans and over the summer and eventually when I have built 'my perfect 944' to keep forever I can sell the other car and use the money to buy some nice upgrades to my freshly restored motor.

...well that's the perfect scenario anyway. Life never tends to go to plan!

 

[DivineE]

ORIGINAL: MarkK

I got well and truly smoked by an S2 at Brands a couple of weeks ago in my turbo[]
Oli that was for you,from me.. next time we are in a pub i will have a pint of frosty lager please[]

Mark you traitor! You obviously need further driver training if you allowed such an inferior car to pass!![]

 

[peanut]

ORIGINAL: 951Torqing

Yes definitely in denial. after upgrading from a 2.7 944 to an S2 and then to a Turbo (IMHO) the best of the 944's.
Look in the manual at the Power/Torque curves and compare the Standard S2 to a Standard 250BHP Turbo. Only below 2000rpm is the S2 more Torquey (Power about the same)
Above 2000revs the Turbo has considerably more Torque (and Power). Most Turbo users would not run below 2500 anyway.
The S2 only has the advantage up to 45mph ie the 1st 4 seconds of the journey, as soon as the Turbo is shifted into 2nd it leaves the S2 in its wake.
A suitably modified Turbo can have a greatly increased advantage over the S2, with no lag above 2500rpm
My Turbo continually gives me aching cheeks, not from the seating area though but in Smiles per Miles
Each to his own eh!

yes but for half that time you are in an S2 rear view mirror chum []
Its pointless to suggest a modified turbo would have a great advantage over a S2 isn't it ? of course it would doh
If you applied the same amount of money to modding the S2 you'd be back where you started with negligable difference in outright speed

I can see that you have never raced a S2 in your turbo or you'd see the evidence of the Porsche specs ie there is very little difference in outright speed over a set distance just a matter of a few seconds at best.

Anyway in an S2 you don't have to prat about dabbing the throttle with your heart in your mouth ,in a high speed bend, in the wet, wondering when the turbo is going to cut in and send you off the road in a big slide.[][]

 

[zcacogp]

ORIGINAL: MarkK
I got well and truly smoked by an S2 at Brands a couple of weeks ago in my turbo[]
Oli that was for you,from me.. next time we are in a pub i will have a pint of frosty lager please[]

Inveigling drinks just for telling the truth, squire?

'Tis not a communist country we have here. Incoming colours are many and splendid, but not red.

(OK, I'll add a pint of frosty lager to the list of things owed to the good chaps of this forum ...)


Oli.

 

[944Turbo]

ORIGINAL: DivineE

It was a Harry Enfield thing[8D] not meant literally

more fast show - swiss Tony

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BXIbl2F6gs&feature=related

driving an S2 is like making love to a beautiful woman, you gotta take it slow []

Tony

 

[944Turbo]

ORIGINAL: DivineE

With all the unexpected findings and therefore work there is no way that my black turbo is going to make it to le-mans this year[][] it's currently sitting as a sorry looking shell with lots of primer covered new metal sections and no engine or gearbox. Its a LONG way from being on the road again. [&o] Don't know why I do it to myself.

However now that this restoration has grown into something ridiculous! There is more than a slight chance at the minute that I might buy another 944T so I can take my time over my project car and do the work myself over a much longer time frame. That way I've got something nice to drive to le-mans and over the summer and eventually when I have built 'my perfect 944' to keep forever I can sell the other car and use the money to buy some nice upgrades to my freshly restored motor.

...well that's the perfect scenario anyway. Life never tends to go to plan!

pictures! pictures! pictures! and a few words to detail the unexpected - hope its not too bad.
Tony

 

[944Turbo]

And welcome to James, sorry for hijacking the thread!

 

[333pg333]

ORIGINAL: zcacogp

Really? Will the therapy take place before or after the turbo lag? Or possibly during .... ? []

I suspect that I'll probably make most of the journey from home to the next meet (not that I have one planned - alas!) while the turbo boys are waiting for their turbos to spin up ... []

S2. Power on (instant) demand. You know it makes sense. *


Oli.

* - In fact, that sounds so good I may just make it my sig ....

Haha, Olli if nothing else you are indefatigable. []

The last time I drove an S2 I had to wait for it to get into the cam and then 'poof', nothing happened. It was like giving Fairy Floss to a starving man.

 

[333pg333]

ORIGINAL: peanut

ORIGINAL: 951Torqing

Yes definitely in denial. after upgrading from a 2.7 944 to an S2 and then to a Turbo (IMHO) the best of the 944's.
Look in the manual at the Power/Torque curves and compare the Standard S2 to a Standard 250BHP Turbo. Only below 2000rpm is the S2 more Torquey (Power about the same)
Above 2000revs the Turbo has considerably more Torque (and Power). Most Turbo users would not run below 2500 anyway.
The S2 only has the advantage up to 45mph ie the 1st 4 seconds of the journey, as soon as the Turbo is shifted into 2nd it leaves the S2 in its wake.
A suitably modified Turbo can have a greatly increased advantage over the S2, with no lag above 2500rpm
My Turbo continually gives me aching cheeks, not from the seating area though but in Smiles per Miles
Each to his own eh!

yes but for half that time you are in an S2 rear view mirror chum []
Its pointless to suggest a modified turbo would have a great advantage over a S2 isn't it ? of course it would doh
If you applied the same amount of money to modding the S2 you'd be back where you started with negligable difference in outright speed

I can see that you have never raced a S2 in your turbo or you'd see the evidence of the Porsche specs ie there is very little difference in outright speed over a set distance just a matter of a few seconds at best.

Anyway in an S2 you don't have to prat about dabbing the throttle with your heart in your mouth ,in a high speed bend, in the wet, wondering when the turbo is going to cut in and send you off the road in a big slide.[][]

Sorry but I have to disagree. You can spend $5k on an S2 and would be lucky to get another 30whp. Do the same on a turbo and well you know the rest.

Not saying that the S2 isn't a good car. We have a couple in our club that turn in some really good laptimes....but they are very good drivers in modified S2's....and they're still some seconds slower than us in lightly modified turbos. Comparing stock vs stock, I might just believe you, but after that.....dust.....[]

 

[DivineE]

ORIGINAL: 333pg333

The last time I drove an S2 I had to wait for it to get into the cam and then 'poof', nothing happened. It was like giving Fairy Floss to a starving man.

[][][][][] this reminds me of the time I test drove an S2000

Me: "Hmmm the old Type R was actually quite good fun, if only they did a 2 seater RWD verion with a 2.0 v-tec engine... oh they do! Awesome"

Salesman: "Wait till you get this thing over 6000rpm"

Me: "Fantastic because this is pathetic at these revs, I'm struggling to keep up with traffic at 4000rpm!"

Salesman: "No honestly it really takes off, it's like a turbo"

Me: "Really, I love turbos." finally we get out of the heavy traffic and onto a quiet back road. I wait till we're on a good straight not sure what to expect, slot it into third and nail the throttle to the decking 4000rpm.. 5000rpm.. 6000rpm.. 7000rpm.. 7500rpm.. nothing, not a peep! No discernible difference other than the mice making slightly louder noises in their bean cans. What a hateful hateful failure to make a sports car! The only entertainment in the whole trip was scaring the "you won't scare me" salesman.

Drove a Z4MC that afternoon.. signed the paperwork the moment I drove it. What a difference in engineering. That 3.2 M straight six is just unbelievable. Now if an S2 had 343hp.. I might take note and listen

 

[DivineE]

ORIGINAL: 944Turbo

ORIGINAL: DivineE

With all the unexpected findings

pictures! pictures! pictures! and a few words to detail the unexpected - hope its not too bad.
Tony

Is your car for sale yet Tony! I ask every time and you say no every time for the last 4 years, but I figure I must be wearing you down[]

Short list on my car, rust took 50+ hours labour to do one corner - bottoms of front wings still to do (unless I go fibreglass), gearbox is currently a pile of parts to be rebuilt as it was on its way out, engine turned out to have a scored bore and the ceramic linings in the head had failed and broken up on two cylinders (possibly connected), all fuel and brake lines need doing, handbrake cables (obviously) and all the brakes need doing. Once all that is sorted I've still got a full respray, wheel refurb and a new windscreen to go before I can even put it on the road.

Couple that to the full interior refresh and all the little auxiliary bits I want to replace like steering UJ etc and yes eventually I will have a lovely car early offset, in black, no ABS (that I hate), with my perfect wheels and that I KNOW won't have any hidden gremlins to ruin my enjoyment so I can relax and tinker with a few modifications.. but its so far in time and money down the line from this point that I'm regretting ever starting the project and just want to be able to enjoy driving a turbo day to day.[] why don't I learn!

 

[944Turbo]

Mine is also looking a bit sorry for itself at the moment - I am seriously considering FG front wings, it will also need sills - they could be blown over and will probably last a while as not too bad on the inside however I am seriously considering V8 power so will do them properly. (Whilst I like the turbo kick I think if I miss it too much I could go for some aggressive cams for a similar effect )
I have got the V8 installation guide from the states - need some translation on a couple of bits but nothing looks too horrendous so far. If I do decide to go this route I will have some choice 944T bits for sale.
Back to your car, what did they find in the corner? was it a rear one that took the time was there previous accident damage or was it just time consuming, one of my rear arches has some rust, wide sticky tyres firing stones at the arch removed the paint around the lip and salty winter spray has got between the paint and the panel.
I had been considering swapping it for one of the nicer ones around recently, but decided I would need to do most of the work on mine to get a decent price for it, so am sticking with it and aim to make it great again.
However am about to move house so it may remain neglected for a little while longer - or maybe butchered and protected with poorly finished paint to minimise further rust spread.

You will love yours when it is done, should be good as new - you might be waiting longer for Porsche to create a new 944T you are happy with!