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Brake Caliper Refub Advice

I guess that, beacuse it's a privately owned and run site, the cost of the stickers is a small contribution to the running costs. I've been registered on ther for years, before the "sticker" thing came in!
The caliper refurb was done by Classicar, the photos and write up show they've done a superb job. I'll PM the poster, see if he's on this forum and can repeat the post over here as I'd guess it would be interesting for 944 owners as well as 968.
 
Hi Chris - thanks for your PM. No problem with re-producing my post here:

Calipers have come back from Classicar - I'm really pleased with the results.

From this:

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To this:

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All in, it cost £420 to have both of them refurbished. The bill from Classicar was £411 inc VAT and I had to have them couriered to them which was just under a tenner.

Every component in the caliper is replaced though, apart from the caliper body itself. This means new pistons, seals, spring plates, spring plate screws, connecting pipes, bleed valves, bleed valve caps, new decals and powdercoating. Then the calipers are pressure tested to make sure that they're not leaking or not working properly.

Then there's the fact that it probably takes quite a bit of persuasion to get the plate screws out - my local non-Porsche independent couldn't get them out - I have no idea of how they managed to.

New Calipers from Porsche are £350+VAT each - can't remember if that's with 10% PCGB discount, though I think it is. Then they'd come in black, so I'd have to take out the pistons, seals, plates and bleed valves to have them powdercoated red, as my front calipers are red.

Despite the fact that it doesn't look like the plates had lifted much in the first picture, when I fitted new discs last year, I fitted anti-squeal shims to the Pagid Blues I had in at the time. I had to pry the pads out with a screwdriver, then I had to use a G-Clamp to push them back in. Now they slide in very easily by hand. The difference is amazing.

Couple of coats of high temp wax and they're now back on the car. I've put back on standard pads, to try and cut down the amount of squealing the brakes make by 50% :D

I also unscrewed the spring plate bolts and added some extra Nickel anti seize, which is particularly good for protecting stainless steel from corroding and seizing. The plates now have a layer of high temp silicone sealant seperating them from the caliper body, so hopefully, platelift will stay away for a long, long time.

I'll take out the bolts and regrease/replace them as required, probably every two years. I've already bought some extra M6x12 button allen headed 316 grade stainless steel screws - which are marine grade and particularly resistant to attack from salt water - for the next time round. I fear the fronts will need doing sooner rather than later....
 
Hi Marv - thanks for the details. Photos look great! I called Classicar last week and spoke to a nice chap called Lee. He quoted £200 per caliper and said it would take 2 weeks to do.

Also, spoke to RPM, and they were quoting about £150 per caliper - but I think you have pay extra for new pistons/seals if they are needed. And they are around £25 a pop.

Classicar advised its quite common to have to replace the pistons, but RPM seemed to think we might be able to get away with not having to (according to their experience). Anyone have any views on this?

Haven't had a chance to speak to my usual indy (GT One) to get a more accurate quote yet....

Based on the reports from Marv I'm favouring Classicar - especially as its a fixed price job. Problem is I haven't got the foggiest idea how to remove the calipers!!!

My KW3s fund keeps getting hit with repairs at the moment - dammit!!

Cheers
 

ORIGINAL: Rohan951

Classicar advised its quite common to have to replace the pistons, but RPM seemed to think we might be able to get away with not having to (according to their experience).  Anyone have any views on this?

Why would the pistons need replacing? Because they are worn? How worn do they get? Perished seals I can understand, but I perhaps wonder a bit about replacement pistons. (I could be being overly cynical.)


Oli.
 

ORIGINAL: zcacogp

(Never seen a forum with a rule like that before.)

Stuart who runs the forum has had a LOT of problems with Spam and Bots auto registering so this sticker idea is just a way to prove its a real person trying to join and not Mr Loadsofmoneywaitingforyou in Nigeria or Mr Viagraformrfloppy in Bow [;)]
 
Fair enough. Running a forum must be a complete nightmare ... I've just never seen a system like that to cut them out.

I can understand that it would work tho'. (It discouraged me, for sure! [;)] )


Oli.
 

ORIGINAL: Rohan951

Hi Marv - thanks for the details.  Photos look great!  I called Classicar last week and spoke to a nice chap called Lee.  He quoted £200 per caliper and said it would take 2 weeks to do.

Also, spoke to RPM, and they were quoting about £150 per caliper - but I think you have pay extra for new pistons/seals if they are needed.  And they are around £25 a pop.

Classicar advised its quite common to have to replace the pistons, but RPM seemed to think we might be able to get away with not having to (according to their experience).  Anyone have any views on this?

Haven't had a chance to speak to my usual indy (GT One) to get a more accurate quote yet....

Based on the reports from Marv I'm favouring Classicar - especially as its a fixed price job.  Problem is I haven't got the foggiest idea how to remove the calipers!!!  

My KW3s fund keeps getting hit with repairs at the moment - dammit!!

Cheers

Hi Rohan - I dealt with Lee too - try and knock him down to £175+VAT per caliper, as that's what I paid. Say you're willing to get them refurbed by them, but you're only willing to pay £175 per caliper, or something. Gathering from what other people have said in the past, they do up and down the price a bit depending on when you call them, so it may be worth trying to haggle with them.

Or maybe after having a right PITA job doing mine, they have decided to put the price up....[;)]
 
The caliper screws are easy to get out, build the head up with weld and they come out easily with mole grips, works every time for me. Full rebuild kits for the calipers are £58 a pop from Ebay if you want to have a go yourself,
Alasdair

 
From this:

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To this:

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Did all other things my self expect powder coating, which cost me 40€ (10€ per calipers)

After paint stripper:

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After wallnut shell blasting:

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Reconditioned hardware:

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Close up picture with new pistons, seals & dust caps:

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Calipers are not that orange in nature; it's the blame of my crabby Samsung camera :)
 
ORIGINAL: Super_Marv

Hi Rohan - I dealt with Lee too - try and knock him down to £175+VAT per caliper, as that's what I paid. Say you're willing to get them refurbed by them, but you're only willing to pay £175 per caliper, or something. Gathering from what other people have said in the past, they do up and down the price a bit depending on when you call them, so it may be worth trying to haggle with them.

Or maybe after having a right PITA job doing mine, they have decided to put the price up....[;)]

Thanks for the tip Marv. I did ask Lee if there is a discount for PCGB memebers but he said there wasn't!!
 
os951 - your refurbed calipers look great.

Was thinking about just keeping mine black, but red is starting to appeal after seeing yours and Marv's!!

Do you have any pics with them on the car please?
 
Sorry no pictures yet. Those calipers are 993 ones for friends 964. Calipers are still waiting for the installation.
Just get a GT3 Cup 6-piston fronts & 4-piston rears to same project. They will go under another friends MK I GT3
 

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