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Carrera or Carrera S

Hi, its been mentioned before in the C2/C2S decision debate. With a C2S rather than change the car when you get used to the power you can re invent the 997 by upgrading to X51 power kit, with a C2 the porsche power kit isn't available (I'm sure after market could provide something though outside of warranty though).
I went the used C2S route 8 months ago and part ex'd a Boxster S (which was great) found a big jump in performance and handling completely different.
 
No substitute for driving them both and then making a decision. If you cannot drive both to compare - drive the C2S and see if it is refined enough for you. Or, drive the C2 and see if you feel it is lacking in any area.
 
Akis - good advice. Actually - the OPC says that he prefers the C2.

Will try and report back.
 
ORIGINAL: Spizz Oil

Akis - good advice. Actually - the OPC says that he prefers the C2.

Will try and report back.
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That'll probably be because he has more margin in a C2 ! I know I am cynical.

I can relate exactly to this debate..I am going through the same exercise and spend hours going thru the Approved Used locator comparing specs. My own concern over a C2 is that is only 30bhp more than I have got now. Also, what value do you put on 10000 miles and 12 months ?
 
On the other hand, can any of us really tell the difference between 4.8 and 5.0 secs 0 to 60?

Just reading an article by Steve Sutcliffe on C2 on 18" wheels.......
 
i cant tell difference between 4.8 and 5.6!!!
but i do know(and feel!) the other additions to the "s"over the c2-its not just the extra 30hp -really[:D]
 
Spiz, Dyllan et al

Do you notice the 0.2 secs to 60. probably not.

But do you identify the extra torque and the slightly quicker in gear times accelerating Yes!

Also the C2S has a couple of standard extras that define the diffrence in character between the 2 cars
  • Bi-Xenons, to me if you do long journey's these are now a must have and so much better than the standard cars lamps - about twice the visibler ange and much better clairty within that range, it maters if your making progress at night
  • PASM - Love it or hate it it makes some difference to the ride quality and makes for more comfy long distance touring, most people agree that. For me I prefere it than the standrad set up for pushing on as well, others differ
  • Torque - The 10% etra torque of the C2S makes itself felt all the way through the powerband - I prefer a more relaxed drive (more torque) for when I am not playing
If you can drive both cars do and then make your mind up, but in dference to the original request the design of the C2s does allow for it to fit the bill of cruiser as well as backroad plaything a bit more.

As per one of my previous posts - I wanted a back road blast machine only with little commuting or cruising I's go for the C2 with Sports Suspension (LSD) Bucket seats and short shift + PSE to get the msot out of it or buy a similarly specced Cayman as I suspect if you don't notice the 0.2 secs from C2S to C" then the extra 0.3 secs to 60 for the Cayman gives you antoher option to look at, great handling.

For a more all round car that picks ups it skirts and flies when playtime comes I'd go C2S every time but that is a personal opinion and they grow on trees. Drvie them both or indeed drive all three then conceed its the C2S.
 
OKELLYT,

Good post - thanks.

I think the point you make is valid. It is not about spec, it is about feel. Feel is very subjective.

I bought my 996 on spec - a C4 with lowered suspension and sports exhaust. Sounded perfect in theory. The reality is that it never had what I really like about 911s - a real delicacy, subtlety and a certain nervousness. It was too planted, too noisy (with exhaust on) and too uncomfortable. (Wonderful in other respects, though.)

So I will try them both out and see for myself.

Thanks.

Spizz
 
Whilst I have a C2 which I love ,I think if you are buying 2nd hand there seems less of a price difference than the intial £7k there was at new so the C2S must offer better value.
 
A C2S is a well rounded car. It doesn't seem too hard or sporty for everyday driving as I use mine for. I have now done 3,000 miles from new in 2 and a bit months. I find it very comfortable even with sports seats (and believe me I don't have a sports backside). The PSE is noisy but easy to find a car without it.

It looks better as it has better brakes with red callipers and the few bits of trim on the inside. They should hold their value more as well as more sought after on re-sale market - not in the respect of rare, quite the opposite but the C2s really is the one people want.

As for Seal Grey, now named Meteor Grey - it is a timeless colour and really classy on the 911 - works well with the Red Callipers and two tone Turbo wheels if you are that way inclined.
Red and Yellow come in and out of fashion - more suited to GT models. People feel that Silver is too passe and black a bugger to clean.
 
Jamie et al,

Thanks. This week I am going to drive my OPC mad and try:
  • a C2 on 18" wheels
  • a C2 on 19" wheels
  • a C2S
Will report back.

Spizz
 
Yep. Only way when spending that much money and not sure which way to go.

As others have pointed out, residuals are an important factor - try to assess the drop in value that you will face in say 12, 18 or 24 months time, on each car.
 
and make sure you have plenty of varied driving in each-you are spending a fair bit so dont be rushed
enjoy yourself[:D][:D][:D]
 
ORIGINAL: Spizz Oil

Jamie et al,

Thanks. This week I am going to drive my OPC mad and try:
  • a C2 on 18" wheels
  • a C2 on 19" wheels
  • a C2S

Will report back.

Spizz
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There is also Blue with yellow brakes as an option!
Enjoy test drive but try to get a test drive plus at Millbrook from your local OPC

Paul



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ORIGINAL: Spizz Oil

Jamie et al,

Thanks. This week I am going to drive my OPC mad and try:
  • a C2 on 18" wheels
  • a C2 on 19" wheels
  • a C2S

Will report back.

Spizz
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Spizz

Smart move - as per earlier quote try diffreent roads conditions to reflect what you'll really be using it for

Buy the one you prefer rather than what everyone else says you should like
 
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