CASTLE HEDINGHAM SUN SEP 7 2014

[Nick_USA]

ORIGINAL: chrishak

.... another 'car club', with bearded members mumbling into their beer following the latest treasure hunt.

Note to self: Cancel next years plan to grow a beard, don't mumble and treasure hunts should only be in pirate movies. Not sure about giving up beer though, open to swapping to Krug if required to do so. [] btw: You missed wearing open toed sandals.

ORIGINAL: chrishak

Lastly, there has been mention of the failed attempts to hold events specifically aimed at post '73 and water-cooled models. Maybe rather than criticising Fred and the clubs presence at his event, the organisers should be asking him for advice on holding a period or model specific event...

I think some of the post 73 events have been good but too many to feel inclusive.

 

[carreraboy]

Des, (yes I noticed your Waitrose comment and you should also know better); Personally I'd rather have a 1999 Silver "˜Waitrose Visiting' Boxster owning member turn up at event who is passionate about his car in uses it every day than an owner of a Porsche on a limited mileage policy and posts to let everyone know his car has gone up in value since last week.

.... and even you accept that the likes of Alznen and RUF aren't strictly true to the Porsche brand yet we welcome them all them same event, even into the same car park. (I know Jason, Classics and Moderns and Modified all playing nicely together in the same field shocking)

Harmless banter Nick, should know me better by now. I can assure you my Porsche rebuilt by Alzen the wiining Carrera Cup Team in 92 is every bit a Porsche and some ..... I have always admired your Orange Boxster and the modifications you have made to the car by yourself.

Member since 1973, I have seen the Club slowly implode since 1998, coincidentally with Porsche AG move to the mass market nothing against Boxters the long lost mid engined 550 reborn, but we now have 4X4, 4 Door Saloons, Mini 4X4, and now a 911 that bares no resemblance to the car produced in 1963. As I have always said the 911 was never meant to be a supercar. That is my opinion, happy to have a debate about it, After all that's what these pages are for, good healthy debate and sometimes a bit of banter amongst mates.

I do hope the 2014 Brands Hatch event happens, from where I sit, something for everyone Porsche, the good the bad and the ugly. Great opportunity to embrace our European Clubs.

I could have said Aldi ... Tesco too posh these days[]

 

[pauljmcnulty]

Harmless banter Nick, should know me better by now.

Some of us might know you, love you, and understand your humour, but I'd bet many don't. That's my point: people base their opinions on their perceptions of what you write, not the sub-text.

We have people on this thread, in an obscure sub-forum (that was "banter", lol! []), thinking CatC is a Club event. It's not, we have to pay from OUR membership fees for the Club to go there, and if you read the pretty damning comments in the board minutes we were hardly welcomed on the best site within the venue!

We also give it loads of advertising, and a cover photo and in-depth review. We have no way of making income from it to offset the costs, except through selling coffee, Club Shop, and new memberships. Club Shop and the memberships signed up at events are massively over-accounted, and they make far less real income than the figures quoted.

There are some really strong feelings about serving Club officials taking big events outside of the Club for their own gain. Saying, as Lawrence does, that "I think if my memory serves me corrrectly, he was club chairman before Paul kelley? I would guess he feels he's done his bit for AGM's and workers confrences. ", is a huge insult to the other former Chairmen who have supported the Club through some hard times, and still do by volunteering on the advisory committee that liases between outgoing and incoming Boards to smooth the progress. I've never seen Fred at a single Club event in ten years, yet I've not been to a single Club event where Paul and Mary, David and Lande, Robin and Jo etc. haven't been at the front.

This thread has become a bit disjointed as some posts are removed, something we don't like on the PCGB forum but can't enforce. Jason is very perceptive as an "ousider", and I agree totally that opinions should be aired openly, and playing "Devil's Advocate" is essential. The Club would do well to crack down on the so-called officials who are encouraging the splitting of the Porsche community in to smaller groups: the outcry on PH about splitting the forums shows that most people want one Porsche community, and that was what the Club used to do through it's volunteers. [8|]

 

[jason]

Have to say I totally agree with Paul. (And I've wound him up as much as anyone in the past lol)

No point going into why I agree but you need to get control of your club, drive it forward and be shepherds.

Not sheep.

Hope you can do it. As Des says it has deteriorated over a long period (many of us here before it began so know where it can be) and for stupid reasons and silly mistakes. Non deliberate but maybe not thought through very well?

Learn from your mistakes, watch where others have succeeded and put in a workable all embracing inclusive plan to drive it forward.

Forget being in others pockets and subservient for annual cash injections and actually BE...

THE PORSCHE CLUB OF GREAT BRITAIN!

How hard can it be? []

 

[Laurence Gibbs]

I also, though not a 944 owner, found melv's comment on page 1 to be insulting. I really think it should be removed.

 

[Melv]

Like, with your history Laurence, I give a toss......[8|]

Burying the hatchet , my arse!!![8D]

If u r going to have another toys out of the pram moment, be my guest.....[&:]

Maybe you can find somewhere else to stay at Spa....[]

 

[Melv]

After due consideration and a handful of e-mails from concerned viewers, I'm locking this thread off, warts n all. If anybody wants to start a personal diatribe against FH and the Castle Hedingham event, that's fine by me, but not on the 964RS forum.

Just ensure your barbs are founded -would be good to hear the truth, and not just rely on rumour and hearsay........