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[Motorhead]

Indeed chaps. 6, whilst I agree generally with your comments about Porsche being an excellent auto engineering company (the consultancy wing is particularly strong), they did I think take rather a long time to respond the IMS and cylinder D-chunk problems which were really only addressed with the introduction of the DFI engines where the IMS was deleted and the Lokasil casting process was replaced by the (hopefully more reliable) Alusil process. I suspect that competitors such as BMW and DB would have reacted much faster to address the problems (I believe that BMW had problems with Lokasil too) but they are of course much larger organisations compared with Porsche, with huge resources available to the development teams. Granted, ignoring the race-derived Mezger engine, it was Porsche's first water-cooled flat-6 production engine, but I can't imagine that VAG would have accepted the situation and I've no doubt that Porsche will now be taking advantage of the VAG resources. Jeff

 

[flat6]

That's a good point. It's one thing that their cars are so good to drive but another that they've on a number of occasions let the business leaders take some decisions on how most cheaply to address some design quality problems. I guess they did the maths on the cost to their reputation of not fixing the problems (the strength of the brand prevailing) vs the cost of fixing the problems[&o] A pertinent comment from elsewhere. I guess it sums up why I'm not craving a 981 yet. It's damn good drive, but so is the 987...

ORIGINAL: blueSL I've no doubt the 991 is a better car than mine but in areas which are increasingly difficult to exploit, not just in the UK but anywhere on the public road. It must be difficult for Porsche to improve perceived performance in typical use. However interesting the car was in Millbrook, the drive to the hotel was telling in that it felt pretty much identical to mine.

 

[CLIFFWILKINS]

Yep dfi gen 2 onwards seem sound so Gen 2 R and 981 should be all good. I did have concerns about My 2009 59 Cayman Sport ltd edition but it was all good in the time i had it but a low miler bought at 7k sold at 14k.They either have issues or they dont simples. Really loved it just needed that little bit of extra power that latter ones have. 350 bhp would be on the button i think without going ott on the Cayman but we live in hope.

 

[flat6]

I agree, 350hp isn't too much to ask (and the very same engine propelling the 981 is already ready to do that, as it does in the 991 Carrera). You can imagine the 981 gen 2 marketing material talking about how the engineers worked tirelessly to extract another 10hp from 981 gen 1 engine[] I think the increase from 320hp in the 987 S to 325hp in the 981 S (which is backwardasof the 330hp in the 987 R) is Porsche trying far too hard on the engine tune vs product placement. It must have took them a long time to determine just the right amount of power to preserve the 0.2s spacing and the Boxster was forced to get 315hp. It's all a bit too orderly and so the products don't present themselves as fulfilling their potential. Let's hope they surprise us.[]

 

[Nick_USA]

They will never go near 350hp as that would equal an entry level 991. Historically Porsche have been very careful to keep a clear 'on paper' performance gap between it's competing models. So most I would expect is 340 hp, 0-62 4.9 sec and a 176 mph Top Speed. (Manual Figures) The was never an overlap in the 986 S vs Base 996, Cayman S Sport 987.1 vs Base 997.1 or the Cayman R 987.2 vs Base 997.2 and Porsche will keep it the same for any Cayman GTS/R vs Base 991 platforms. (If they should ever produce one).

 

[flat6]

True. I think with each new iteration though it's getting harder for them to prevent the overlap. To do so is more and more to the detriment of the smaller car. The chassis engineers have done such a good job that the powertrain engineers were tasked with how to reign it in[] Whoever signed off the first Cayman has probably long gone for giving Porsche such a dilemma[] Not that the Boxster doesn't have the same potential, but I think you can get away more with positioning a roadster as a fun sunny day car but a coupe, for some, has a slightly different expectation.