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Caymans to be 4 cylinders from next year???
- Thread starter Masher
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Are Porsche trying to boost 911 sales? Won't be buying a 911 either
Will hang on to my C/R after that won't be buying Porsche not unless I buy a late Cayman GTS or GT4.
The 4 pot may be faster more ecconomical lower emissions but really.
Cliff.
I have had it for 18 months best ever Porsche I have owned for a road car have owned a good few Porsches as well.
Awesome drivers car.
Forget to mention Umbrella, Cup Holders and Radio Command centre but NO A/C!
The fact is regarding the change to 4 cylinder turbos we don't know how they will drive yet but we do know that they will be class leading.
The same can be said about electric steering systems. Significant advances have been made already in the steering feel (ref the GT3) and given a few more years, hydraulically-assisted systems will have been confined to history. Everyone has forgotten how lifeless the hydraulic systems were when first introduced (Jaguar XJ6?) and it took the manufacturers some time fiddling with the valving to achieve a reasonable level of feedback.
Porsche has a lot of turbocharging experience and like you I'm expecting the flat-4 turbo engines to be state-of-the-art examples if the publicity blurb on the new 991 turbo cars is anything to go by - high revving but with bags of torque. A 4-pot motor has a different sound characteristic compared with a six, but nothing to be too concerned about.
Jeff
Brian_Innes
Member
I came into Porsche ownership 8 years ago with my very first Cayman, a 987.1 2.7 manual, and have since graduated via a 987.2 CS manual, to my current fabulous CR manual. I like my Caymans as you will have already sussed. I chose the Cayman models over the Boxster's due to it's better handling stiffer coupe chassis compared to the more "flexi" Boxster convertible. I love my driving, both on the glorious Highland roads where I live, and at the occasional track day. At no time did I consider brand positioning, or how the neighbours would rate my car choice. I chose the Cayman for what it means to me, simply the best value driver's car for the money bar none.
Regarding the flat 4 turbos, this change is not good. Nothing, simply nothing, exemplifies Porsche sports cars better than a singing, howling, normally aspirated flat 6.
By comparison, my other daily driver car has a 4 cylinder turbo engine. It's an Abarth 595 Competizione 180 bhp, and it's fun, cheeky, and frisky to drive as only a hot Fiat 500 can be. However, the power delivery of the Abarth is very different to the creamy, silky, power and torque curve provided by my CR engine. Turbo engines are by nature good at delivering a shed load of torque in a great lump all of a sudden. It's a completely different power delivery system to n/a engines. I shall be very interesting to see how Porsche map the new flat 4 engines and how the motoring press receive them in a Porsche sports car. I'm expecting mixed reviews.
I completely agree with earlier comments about over long gearing. This kills keen driver involvement and enjoyment both on public roads and track day events. The new GT4 for example would have been even more of a track scorcher with shorter, closer stacked gear ratios and a lower geared diff. Maybe the GT4RS will sort that out.
Finally, I loved the comment about current 987 Spyders and CR's being a gold plated pension fund.......maybe this flat 4 turbo engine nonsense may well turn out to be a blessing in disguise for Spyder and CR owners. Every cloud has a silver lining.
Brian
spyderwhite
Member
Although both good cars it will be a long while before they hit the realms of a 997.2 gt3rs even the lesser 997.1 gt3!
prices of said cars seamed to have found their niche at about £40-45k for a minter and can't see them rising anytime soon!
Although there are rumours of turbo 4 pots I still think they will make fl6 na. engine specials for the die hards
Brian_Innes
Member
Agreed that CR and Spyder models will probably not reach the stratospheric price heights of the 997 GT3's, but the used car market is a fickle thing and who knows what these mid-engined gems will fetch in 10 years time.
Brian
Parts bin sharing Brian? The Boxster and Cayman owe their very existence to the 986, 987 and 991..!
Jeff
Brian_Innes
Member
I was referring more to the current Audi/VAG parts bin rummaging.
Brian
One positive thing about using the VAG parts bin is that we might see some more imaginative use of the centre touch screen to get rid of the hideous centre console button-fest of the latest Porsche offerings. And just take a look at the latest Audi instrument display to show what can be achieved in a modern quality car.
Jeff
[link=http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche/cayman/92880/next-porsche-boxster-and-cayman-to-get-4cyl-turbos]http://www.autoexpress.co...man-to-get-4cyl-turbos[/link]
Good to hear that he doesn't subscribe to the opinion that there must be a big performance gap between the 911 and the Cayman.
Jeff
On a more serious note, I did get a sinking feeling when I read about the four cylinder future, and my knee jerk reaction was that my current Cayman GTS would be the last of a run of six consecutive Porsches. (All various Boxsters and Caymans). Then again, the old 'never say never' comes into play, and Kevan is right to point out that it is wrong to judge the next generation cars before we have driven them. I suspect I will certainly miss the sound though, and if the boffins have synthesised the future four pot's aural output to sound like a six, that would both embarrass and patronise in equal measures. Fingers crossed.
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