Check your tyre repair Kit

[bobfair]

I had the bad luck to pick up a piece of wire in a rear tyre today at Silverstone which caused a puncture. I went to use the foam and thought I had a chance of it working to get me home as I only had a small hole in the main section of the tread. To use the foam you have to remove the tyre valve and porsche supply a small plastic valve removal tool as part of the kit. I duly inserted this into the valve and it promptly broke blocking the valve so as I was unable to get it out or use the foam. This meant I had to call out Porsche recovery rather than drive the car home. The valve removal Porsche provide is USELESS so I strongly recommend you carry a proper metal one in case you need it.

I didnt have a great day as I also managed to spin at becketts but fortunately the only damage was to my pride.

Great pity as apart from these two problems the car was going really well. I had one other moment of excitement. I was hard on it approaching copse when a guy managed to overturn his car on the exit of copse scattering glass everywhere. Lifting off and breaking hard in a 90 plus corner is not ideal!!

 

[Lancerlot]

No need for All Bran for brekker tomorrow then, Bob. []

Sorry to hear of your woes - all part of motoring character-building, I guess.

Good luck with replacement tyres. [8|]

Regards,

Clive.

 

[Terry]

I totally agree that the plastic valve removal tool is useless, it broke on the only occasion that I tried to use it. Having said that, when I did eventually get the valve out and squirted the sealant into the tyre, I watched it squirt straight out through the hole as soon as I turned on the compressor. Anything larger than the smallest of leaks and you may as well call the recovery service straight away and save yourself the hassle of trying!

 

[Nick_USA]

ORIGINAL: bobfair

I had the bad luck to pick up a piece of wire in a rear tyre today at Silverstone which caused a puncture. I went to use the foam and thought I had a chance of it working to get me home as I only had a small hole in the main section of the tread. To use the foam you have to remove the tyre valve and porsche supply a small plastic valve removal tool as part of the kit. I duly inserted this into the valve and it promptly broke blocking the valve so as I was unable to get it out or use the foam. This meant I had to call out Porsche recovery rather than drive the car home. The valve removal Porsche provide is USELESS so I strongly recommend you carry a proper metal one in case you need it.

I didnt have a great day as I also managed to spin at becketts but fortunately the only damage was to my pride.

Great pity as apart from these two problems the car was going really well. I had one other moment of excitement. I was hard on it approaching copse when a guy managed to overturn his car on the exit of copse scattering glass everywhere. Lifting off and breaking hard in a 90 plus corner is not ideal!!

Sorry to hear about the puncture ... assuming you are now looking for a new set of rear Corsas []

btw The tyre junk is virtually useless and will also cost you a new TPMS sensor if you have those fitted as it has to be replaced if you have used the gunk.

 

[tscaptain]

when a guy managed to overturn his car on the exit of copse scattering glass everywhere.

Bl**dy hell Bob - I take it this was a track day you were on and not a demolition derby?!

Sorry to hear about the puncture - that kit they put in the car can only be to satisfy the legal requirements and no more. I've yet to hear of a time when the gunk has actually worked!

 

[yan]

ORIGINAL: tscaptain

when a guy managed to overturn his car on the exit of copse scattering glass everywhere.

Bl**dy hell Bob - I take it this was a track day you were on and not a demolition derby?!

Sorry to hear about the puncture - that kit they put in the car can only be to satisfy the legal requirements and no more. I've yet to hear of a time when the gunk has actually worked!

So it sounds like a complete faff, and more than likely a waste of effort even if the valve tool doesn't break. So might the general advice be to call Porsche Assistance from the start? Do they not try the "have you tried the gunk route, and get back to us if there is a problem" or will they come out and trailer you away regardless? I can't imagine Mrs. J getting involved in fixing a tyre in this way...

 

[tscaptain]

ORIGINAL: J
So might the general advice be to call Porsche Assistance from the start? Do they not try the "have you tried the gunk route, and get back to us if there is a problem" or will they come out and trailer you away regardless? I can't imagine Mrs. J getting involved in fixing a tyre in this way...

Ring them and just say the plastic tool thingy broke if they ask that question! Unless it was an absolutely desperate situation I wouldn't bother even trying. By the time you have faffed for an hour the car could well be on a trailer and on it's way to the garage. (See Brecon Beacons register event for details...........![])

 

[bobfair]

Well the car is back at my OPC today and guess what there are no Corsas to be had and the delivery quote is 8 weeks. The tyre shortage problems seem to be getting worse and is apparently now affecting tyres for standard 911's and not just GT cars or Turbos.. The guys at my OPC are very helpful and they are doing everything they can to source some tyres. Currently looking at trying to find 4 sport cups which will make that puncture very expensive.

It is a great pity as the car was going very well and generally the driving at the event was better than I see on club days. I was not held up or cut up during the day and there were not that many red flags. I thought Goldtrack were a good organiser but would be interested to hear Mr Grovers views as he was roaring around in a Scuderia and a GT3 RS. There was a 458 on the circuit and the owner also had a 599 GTO which looked gorgeous to say the least

 

[Nick_USA]

Do you need two rears in the Corsa's (305/30/19) or would you just need the one (I know they are Left or Right) ????

I don't think you really want to back to cups do you as the wet handling is much worse than the Corsa's.

Edit: That said, Black Circles have the cups (N rated) on offer at the moment and appear to have stock 4 would be £1480.68 fitted.

 

[Sandy59]

Bob, I got one on these kits which is supposedly a better 'get you home' option, haven't had to try it yet though fortunately.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silverline-Tyre-Repair-Kit-380421/dp/B001QUN9UQ

If you only have a small hole from a piece of wire in the main tread, can it not be professionally repaired ??
Obviously your OPC won't recommend this to be on the safe side, but they are not usually experts on the subject to be honest.
I'd look into this at least for normal road use, I think there are pretty strict guidlines in place anyway as regards repairs, but could be a much cheaper option and fine for the short term.

 

[Geoff_Fields]

Bob,
I have sent you mail so check all your input folders including spam just in case.

 

[Lancerlot]

Geoff,

Are there words of wisdom you feel unable to share with the rest of us? []

Regards,

Clive

PS. I note the kit is only recommended for "off road" use only! Still if you're stuck out in the middle of nowhere, you'll be glad of any potential repair.

 

[Geoff_Fields]

Just links to a source of 2 alleged good second hand rears. Not difficult to find but thought I would give Bob the info first, just in case of a stampede!

 

[Sandy59]

This kit does actually say recommended for 'off road' use only, but there are other similar looking kits that don't seem to mention that.
Looking at the contents I think I'd be happy to give it a try if I was stranded with a small hole in the main tread area.

 

[tscaptain]

Presumably the main issue with the "off road" bit is a legal, cover their backside one? There are pretty strict rules these days covering puncture repairs, as Sandy said earlier, and I suppose it's form of disclaimer should anyone use the product and then have an accident. Must say as an alternative to the non-effective gunk it looks like it would be a useful "get out of trouble" accessory at a very cheap price! Having said that without a jack in the car it might be a bit tricky doing the repair with the wheel on the ground and in the dark..............[&:][]?

 

[tscaptain]

ORIGINAL: Sandy59

This kit does actually say recommended for 'off road' use only, but there are other similar looking kits that don't seem to mention that.
Looking at the contents I think I'd be happy to give it a try if I was stranded with a small hole in the main tread area.

I have just got a kit! Under £10 from Amazon. Think I would be happier giving it a go rather than the gunk, especially as the gunk knackers the TPMS. No instructions in the kit but there is on their website![]
http://www.silverlinetools.com/media/manuals/380421_Z1MANPRO1.PDF

 

[Lancerlot]

I'm slightly confused over the instructions. [&:]

The insertion tool appears to be like a big threading needle, so how does rotating it, then pulling it away leave the adhesive stick in place, please? [8|]

Regards,

Clive.

Tubeless tyre repairing process
"¢ Once the puncture has been located, force the reamer through the hole.
Pull the reamer back and forth until it moves in the hole without
restriction. (Fig A)
"¢ Thread one strip of the tyre adhesive sticks through the eyelet of the
inserting tool. (Fig B)
"¢ Force the insertion tool into the puncture hole leaving 20mm tails of the
adhesive tyre sticks. (Fig C)
"¢ Rotate the tool clockwise whilst pulling the insertion tool away from the
tyre surface. (Fig D)

 

[tscaptain]

ORIGINAL: Lancerlot

The insertion tool appears to be like a big threading needle,

Indeed it does appear so but the "eye" end is split so that, presumably (as I haven't tried it!), as you rotate and pull out the split end opens to leave that end of the stick on the inside! I shall have to practise on an old tyre I have lying about the place so that I can watch what happens!![]

 

[Lancerlot]

Thanks Alan,

There's quite a bit of footage on Youtube to illustrate the repair.

Regards,

Clive.

 

[tscaptain]

I will have it in the car this Saturday so you can have a look close up![]