Clubsport as a daily driver?

[Steve Brookes]

Considering a 968 Clubsport for regular use (thanks for the tip off Paul F [] ). Will average around 1,000 miles a month. All weathers. The car won't be used on track (I have my 964 for that). Will it be too much of a pain and therefore should I stick with my original idea of a sport?

I've found a few opinions via the search function but it would be good to have some up to date thoughts. []

p.s. the clubsport I'm thinking of has M030.

 

[968CSReading]

I used to use mine for the daily grind and business. Used to do 300 + miles in a day on some trips.

The only gripe would be the buckets, after an hour I would have to stop to get some circulation back but then Im quite chunky. Thats why I sold them and brought sports seats instead.

It actually made a brilliant motorway car with effortless acceleration and it was always lots of fun. The lack of remote boot release was the only down side IMO but a small price to pay.

Dont rule out a sport though, they are just as good at everything the CS can do. Unless you are set on a CS buy the best one you can and e

 

[andrew_churcher]

Go for it mate. I think they are pretty practical as well with the rear hatch space taking a fair bit of kit.

only 179 UK delivered so rare as well

 

[lawtoma]

I use my 968 Coupe as a daily driver and love it! Can't comment on the stiffer set-up of the cs/s, but love the practicality/fun/rarity value of running a 968 daily. Go for it!

 

[Steve Brookes]

Thanks so far guys. Getting a 968 for the daily drive is not in question. After having boxsters for daily duties for the last 8 years I decided it was time for a change. I was all set to change to a Toyota GT86 as I'd heard so much good stuff about them being fun. However an extensive test drive left me numb. There just wasn't enough oomph! I know enough about 968s to know that one will fulfill my needs. And my wife thinks I won't be happy if I drive anything other than a Porsche (nothing to do with her wanting to borrow it now and again [] ).

A 968CS is in the frame because the one in question (if I'm quick enough) has had everything done to it mechanically that it should have during its life (I've read all about belts, tensioners, chains, cams, brake refurb, water pump, etc). However, while I've no problem with the seats (I have recaro PPs in the 964 and love them), the following might be an issue for regular use:

1. The M030 set up could be too harsh for regular use on normal roads?
2. The small battery could be an issue for winter starting?
3. Frozen washer nozzles in the winter
4. Frozen wing mirrors (no heaters)
5. Does the CS have a heated rear screen for de-misting?
6. Will I ruin it by piling on the miles?

 

[clubsport]

I ran one as a daily for a while, it was fine, even though it had low miles, you always had that feeling of what would need doing to it next.
The running costs and potential bills were not significantly different to a 911, which was an issue as it didn't have the same sense of occasion, as far as I was concerned.

M030 is fine on the road, batteries are cheap.....don't forget these are getting on now!

Worth trying to tick it off of the list, enjoyed mine, but I don't miss it at all, unlike my 3.2 Clubsport!

Now that is a real Clubsport, by Porsche!

 

[Chrishazle]

The big downside you haven't mentioned - CS compared to Sport or Coupe - is price! Why would you pay the extra cost of a CS if it's for a daily driver and 300ish miles per week (or 60 per day)?? The coupe we had for 12 1/2 years started life (with us) as our main car, and was superb - whether on longish drives or Tesco runs. However, it had 1/2 leather comfort seats, and I now know that full leather sports seats, although more difficult for old farts like me to get in and out of, are much more supportive and just as comfortable. OK, neither the coupe nor the cab have M030, and both are on 16's rather than 17's - but my kidneys appreciate this! I once drove a cab on 18's - with 225's on the front and 255's on the rear. It was horrible, tramlined like mad and jarred when I went over a soft marshmallow!

Also on the cost question, have you considered a tip rather than a manual? For some reason they're also cheaper, yet you can drive it as a clutchless manual (which is what I have done for nearly 15 years now!) or, when stuck in a traffic jam, get lazy and put it in D!! I was dubious when I test drove my coupe 15 years ago, but would not swop for a manual now - even the shopping trolley has a tip autobox!!

Edit - for example - http://www.classic-chrome.co.uk/search-show-003556.html - aircon and £7k!!

 

[andrew_churcher]

Boxsey I think I know which one you are talking about. Black with 120k miles.....looks nice a good price

 

[Mr968]

Now that is a real Clubsport, by Porsche!

interesting comment, is the 968 Club Sport not a Porsche?

 

[clubsport]

ORIGINAL: Mr968

Now that is a real Clubsport, by Porsche!

interesting comment, is the 968 Club Sport not a Porsche?

Bizzare question?

Just to clarify, it was more my thought on Porsche's take of the Clubsport philosophy.

From my own experience, the 968CS doesn't feel that (any) different from a Sport, especially when fitted with standard suspension and comfort seats.....

The 3.2 Clubsport was far more special to own than a 3.2 Sport, my current 993 Clubsport is an extreme example of Porsche's view on the Clubsport theme.

As I said I am glad I owned a 968CS, it was an interesting car.

 

[simkin911]

For a daily driver I'd save some dough and take advantage of a coupe or a Sport - there are a couple advertised at very keen prices which appear as incredible value.

Personally, I have a Sport (with sport seats from a 944T), M030 ARBs and KWV3. Will shortly be retrofitting M030 hubs/spindles to the car. With the exception of an LSD (which I will look out for), this is a great spec for my personal needs (and desire). Total cost will be significantly less than the average (if there is such a thing) Club Sport.

 

[Blade_uk]

I've been running my Sport as a daily driver for quite a while now & love driving it every day

 

[ExAudiSi]

If you want a 968 as a daily driver, I'd definitely go for a coupe with air con and I just happen to know where there is a nice one for sale.....[]

 

[simkin911]

ORIGINAL: ExAudiSi

If you want a 968 as a daily driver, I'd definitely go for a coupe with air con and I just happen to know where there is a nice one for sale.....[]

I would have been strongly interested in your car 3 months ago !!

 

[Steve Brookes]

For those wondering, I do indeed agree that a sport or a coupe would make the ideal daily user. However the reason for the question about whether a CS could be a daily driver, is that the car in question has had significant money spent on the mechanical components (engine, suspension and brakes) and is still keenly priced. On paper it could be one of those cars that over the next three years would only require money spending on routine servicing and consumables. Hence why it has presented me with a conundrum and wished I hadn't spotted it! []

@ my buddy Andrew C......keep yer mouth shut until I've made up my mind. []

I've got my eye on a sport or two that are currently for sale but if anyone knows of anything else.....drop me a line []

 

[ChrisW]

Steve, mine did have a heated rear window.

Of course the rear seats are exchanged for an extended luggage shelf.

It's the best sports estate car that Porsche never made

Battery --- you can always fit a bigger one !! And yes the biggest production 4 pot 3 litre does take some spining over ...

 

[Mr968]

especially when fitted with standard suspension and comfort seats.....

But then that is not what Porsche intended, the comfort seats were an option chosen by the buyer. This happened so many times that in 1994 Porsche UK decided to badge a specced up Club Sport as a Sport.
So you have a Sport which is not very different from a Club Sport and on the other hand not very different from a Coupe, but, the Club Sport is quite a different car to drive from the original Coupe.

http://www.porsche968uk.co.uk/968-model-differences.htm

And (just to bring this back on topic) why the question has to be asked is it suitable as a daily driver?

My tuppence worth Steve.
Coupe and Sport yes, CS would be a no mainly due to the seat, but also the lack of electrics and a tailgate release on the RHS.
Having had all 3, and especially after running a Sport and CS alongside each other for some time it has to be a no on the CS.

 

[Big Dave]

From my personal experiences, ide have to say not the M030 CS as a daily drive.
The M030 suspension whilst good in its day, is by todays standards harsh and crashy [even with the adjusters to full soft], especially over the now very worn out roads we have to contend with.
Factor in the lack of creature comforts like remote hatch release etc etc , and I think you,d get tired of it pretty quickly.
If you must have a 968 for a DD then plump for a good Sport or coupe.

Ps. If the car your interested in is the one im thinking of, then yes its a nice one, and it drove nicely, when I was in it..[][][] .Although it is harsh on the bumps.....

 

[ExAudiSi]

ORIGINAL: Steve Brookes

For those wondering, I do indeed agree that a sport or a coupe would make the ideal daily user. However the reason for the question about whether a CS could be a daily driver, is that the car in question has had significant money spent on the mechanical components (engine, suspension and brakes) and is still keenly priced. On paper it could be one of those cars that over the next three years would only require money spending on routine servicing and consumables. Hence why it has presented me with a conundrum and wished I hadn't spotted it! []

@ my buddy Andrew C......keep yer mouth shut until I've made up my mind. []

I've got my eye on a sport or two that are currently for sale but if anyone knows of anything else.....drop me a line []

Here is the link to my ad. If you decide that a few more creature comforts would be nice....

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/968/porsche-968-coupe-1992/1411356

 

[Steve Brookes]

OK a sport or coupe it is then. Thanks guys for confirming my thoughts.

@BigDave...I'm sure you've guessed right. Here's the link:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111086313254?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

For anyone wanting a CS for weekends and trackdays I'm sure it would fit the bill nicely []

@ExAudiSi...thanks, I'll take a look at your ad. []