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Got a car waiting that needs a clutch, was stolen and now clutch is US, what are they like to fit? looks like parts are around £350, anyone got any advice they can give me re. 944 clutches?

Tony
 
Not had one done yet myself, but are apparently a bit of a monster job.

Costs of £650 - £1000, including parts, when carried out by an independant from memory.
 
What model do you have?
Much worse on a turbo as the exhaust manifold gets in the way (the turbo is on the intake side). You have to drop the gearbox back which apparently isn't too bad, I haven't tried it myself, then remove the torque tube - good opportunity to check condition of the bearings- then AFAIK its like any other car.
Should ask though Is it the clutch plate or the hydraulics? (above assumes plate)
Tony
 
Take a look in the Garage Shop Manual section at www.clarks-garage.com for an online DIY guide. Most independants allow about 10-14 manhours so that is where most of the cost comes from, the part itself is comparatively cheap.
 
Thanks for the replys guys, the 20 page document thats floating round the internet, explaining the clutch removal is very well done and helpful but it looks like I won't be needing it!
I bought this car with "a clutch problem" amongst other things i.e. busted ignition switch, been hot wiring it to getting it running but as it's in a confined space was unable to hot wire it in gear. Managed to do that tonite and the car jerked forward suggesting the clutch is engaged, whilst this dosen't rule out a clutch problem I'm going to work through the whole system before plunging in with a clutch replacement, somethings broke somewhere!

Tony
 
Could be the hydrallic side of the clutch, the hose from the master cylinder often fails and is relatively easy to replace.
Tony
 
Thanks Tony, the next step is to check the hydraulics, I figured the pedal would drop if it was a hydraulic problem and I still have a good pedal!

Tony
 
Yes you are right - sounds like you will be an expert once it's sorted, Good luck.
There are available on e-bay and similar, workshop manuals on CD, whilst not wishing to encourage piracy (but unfortunately Porsche only supply paper manuals at much greater cost) they might be usefull if you have to take the car apart,
Tony
 
I have seen the CD manuals on E-bay, got one for my Mondeo, and like you, I don't wish to be seen to be supporting the piracy thing but the lack of this level of tech' info means it's a viable option.
Another stroke of luck, phoned a good friend of mine who's a mechanic to tell him about the car and he reminded me that he did his apprenticship at Bauer Millet in Manchester! he's spent a good few hours working on various Porches including doing a clutch on a 944 so offered his help, maybe next time we're having a pint I'll wait till he's well oiled and try and talk him into doing the job with me in his HUGE garage with access to his big Snap on tool box (he has offered to loan me any odd tools I might need like a 6 point 8mm socket for the clutch bolts!)

Tony
 
Hi
Just spent some time under the car trying to get to the bottom of the clutch problem, it would appear the hydraulics are all working corectly as I can see the end of the slave cylinder piston moving when the pedal is deppressed, so it looks like a new clutch!
Tony
 
ORIGINAL: John Sims
Costs of £650 - £1000, including parts, when carried out by an independant from memory.

Which parts do you include in a typical clutch job ?

A couple of months ago I had mine replaced at an independent : £800 in parts + £500 in labour (14 hrs).
 
Chris, I did mine myself (with my brother's help) and, although it was the first time we've tackled a 944, we replaced the clutch and torque tube in about 9 - 10 hours. I printed out the instructions from Clarks Garage which were a great help "Clark then asked me for pics / advice on the torque tube removal as he's currently writing that procedure."

I think 8 hours just for the clutch is about fair but how do the dealers or specialist charge 14 - 16 hours [:'(] (unless it's 7 - 8 hours x 2 technicians ?)

BTW I paid £285 for the clutch kit plus the dreaded.
 
Too late now, but if anyone is interested, one of the posters on Titanic has offered his services for clutch changing and torque tube recon as well as other general maintenance at £16 an hour.

Send me an email for his tel number and email address. He's purely an amateur enthusiast and is based in Surrey.
 
ORIGINAL: Chris Preston
Just had mine done- £300 approx for the kit and 8 hours labour to fit- plus vat of course...

ORIGINAL: NorthernBloke
I paid £285 for the clutch kit plus the dreaded.

That is cheap. My clutch kit cost £384 (ex VAT) [:(]
 
The clutch is a biggie. Last time I had one done (S2 coupe) I was quoted £650 to £700 but the final bill was over £800 because the flywheel sensors had to be forcibly removed and hence replaced which took time and cost for the parts.
 
That's an average price for a Porsche Specialist and it's mostly labour. Jase seems to have found a bargain supply of parts for only £180 [:D]and then you've got about 10 hours of labour depending on how seized all the bolts are. So if you can find someone good, who charges around £30 an hour you could get it all done for around Jases figure.

It's not out of the realms of the DIY mechanic, it's just a case of allowing a couple of days and being able to support the gearbox and torque tube when you lower them. There are a few online guidesto teh whole processon the web. Try www.clarks-garage.com for one of them
 
Yes, rubber centre breaking up. As chunks of it come off they jam up in the clutch (as the Merc springs probably did) but being rubber they get ground down. When it happened to by S2 it was horrible for a while but once someone told me what had happened I then actively tried to get the rubber chunks to break up and after that it was fine, just with lots of backlash and had to be babied so as not to damage anything without the cushioning.
 

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