morris944s2john
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as an enthusiast- you have no option but to restore! If you lived nearby I'd help out
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]decisions......to restore or to change?
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mik_ok
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Change gets my vote, but only because (and this isn't meant to offend any lux owners) I considered the S2 to be a genuine performance car, whilst the Lux is a sweet handling car that isn't actually that quick in this day and age. And I prefer the looks of the later cars.
If these things don't bother you then better-the-devil-you-know will win.
If these things don't bother you then better-the-devil-you-know will win.
Just to play devils advocate here... (personally I own a Lux but I think I prefer the looks of the S2... extra performance doesn't bother me as I have other newer cars for that... the 944 is a modern classic, its not about performance anymore)....
Now I admit I'm quite new to 944 ownership and have a lot to learn so I stand to be corrected on this ... but... From a financial standpoint, the majority of the money spent on restoring the Lux will be "lost" as you won't really recoup it when it comes to selling the car....However you'll probably recoup more the money you spend on upgrading to an S2. The difference only gets bigger too if you start spending money on modifications as you virtually never get that money back....
So if your wallet needs to drive the decision, then buy the S2.....
Now I admit I'm quite new to 944 ownership and have a lot to learn so I stand to be corrected on this ... but... From a financial standpoint, the majority of the money spent on restoring the Lux will be "lost" as you won't really recoup it when it comes to selling the car....However you'll probably recoup more the money you spend on upgrading to an S2. The difference only gets bigger too if you start spending money on modifications as you virtually never get that money back....
So if your wallet needs to drive the decision, then buy the S2.....
pauljmcnulty
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Very valid point, Hamza. If I spend £2-£3k on my Lux, worth about £2.5k, I'll still have a Lux - albeit a damn fine Lux. [
] It would still struggle to beat £3.5k if I sold it, though. Buying a top S2 would cost me a bit more, maybe an extra £2k on top of what I'm going to have to spend anyway, but I'd have a better car. Money isn't really the issue here, though. I planned to keep mine for at least 10 years when I bought it, so at some point things like bodywork were always going to be an issue. If I changed I'd not be thinking of selling that car in the forseeable future so it would need to be the right one. Interesting how many people are taking the cautious route and suggesting that I keep what I know!
Keep the comments coming. [&:]
peanut
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I have had both a late 86 Lux and 89 &90 S2 and its a tough decision. I was in lurv with my Lux because she was my first. She owned me for 9 years until I let her get away on a roundabout.[] She was a little unresponsive at low revs and pulling away and there were times when I wished for a little more power when Volvo and A4 estates passed me ...[:-] but I would still have her now if funds had permitted me to restore her.
The S2 has considerable more power and the difference is huge! that said my current S2 has been chipped etc and I have no idea what difference that has over a stock S2.
There is so little difference otherwise that for me it all comes down to the interior. There are some truly diabolical interiors out there. (you know who you are !) The pleasure of climbing into the cab and slipping into a sports seat with a cream half leather interior is beyond words. The driving pleasure for me is all about interior colour and finishes and aesethetics. It makes the interior feel light fresh and airy and really gives the car a feeling of `Super car' status.
So my advice would be that given that power is not all important I would keep my existing Lux but.
1. change interior to your preference (if its not already)
2. Renew all carpets.and add Porsche logo overmats
3 Renew all worn switches and interior bits.
4. maybe invest in a nice Momo ?
5. Fit a 7" Multimedia ICE and satnav with 7" touchscreen/DVD/TV etc
6. Fit TOTRange keyfob central locking and alarm/immobiliser
7. Uprate the suspension and tyres and re-track wheels front & back
8. Treat rust and paint chips refurb paintwork
9. Possibly change wheels ?
10. Renew gearbox linkage.
11. change sunroof for a glass one if its possible ?
12.full service possible engine/clutch refurbish
After that little lot she would feel and look like a new car
if you've got any money left after that then book a nice holiday and take her touring around Europe.
edit : I just wanted to make a point about the money side of things.
If we are intending to keep our 44's then i don't see money is an issue . I personally don't care what it costs me to run and keep and preserve. (within reason)
I did not buy the car as an investment !....
If we are going to worry about investment and recouping costs then i'm sorry to dissapoint you guys but you bought the wrong car![]
Lets face it what is 2-3 grand anyway ? 4-5 weeks wages or less for the majority of us I expect. Its peanuts. considering for that you are getting a iconic classic supercar in return.
Forget the money smoke and drink less if it worries you that much lol[]
] She was a little unresponsive at low revs and pulling away and there were times when I wished for a little more power when Volvo and A4 estates passed me ...[:-] but I would still have her now if funds had permitted me to restore her.The S2 has considerable more power and the difference is huge! that said my current S2 has been chipped etc and I have no idea what difference that has over a stock S2.
There is so little difference otherwise that for me it all comes down to the interior. There are some truly diabolical interiors out there. (you know who you are !) The pleasure of climbing into the cab and slipping into a sports seat with a cream half leather interior is beyond words. The driving pleasure for me is all about interior colour and finishes and aesethetics. It makes the interior feel light fresh and airy and really gives the car a feeling of `Super car' status.
So my advice would be that given that power is not all important I would keep my existing Lux but.
1. change interior to your preference (if its not already)
2. Renew all carpets.and add Porsche logo overmats
3 Renew all worn switches and interior bits.
4. maybe invest in a nice Momo ?
5. Fit a 7" Multimedia ICE and satnav with 7" touchscreen/DVD/TV etc
6. Fit TOTRange keyfob central locking and alarm/immobiliser
7. Uprate the suspension and tyres and re-track wheels front & back
8. Treat rust and paint chips refurb paintwork
9. Possibly change wheels ?
10. Renew gearbox linkage.
11. change sunroof for a glass one if its possible ?
12.full service possible engine/clutch refurbish
After that little lot she would feel and look like a new car
if you've got any money left after that then book a nice holiday and take her touring around Europe.
edit : I just wanted to make a point about the money side of things.
If we are intending to keep our 44's then i don't see money is an issue . I personally don't care what it costs me to run and keep and preserve. (within reason)
I did not buy the car as an investment !....
If we are going to worry about investment and recouping costs then i'm sorry to dissapoint you guys but you bought the wrong car![
]Lets face it what is 2-3 grand anyway ? 4-5 weeks wages or less for the majority of us I expect. Its peanuts. considering for that you are getting a iconic classic supercar in return.
Forget the money smoke and drink less if it worries you that much lol[
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georgethackray
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Restore or Change - tough call. I think overall I'd try to restore.
There are a lot of people here who say the same thing - you know what's wrong with yours, you don't know what's wrong with the nice shiny S2 with full service history.
It took me 6 months of spending to get my S2 'right' and it cost a lot more than I first budgeted, even though it seemed to have very little wrong with it at the time. There was nothing major or life threatening, just loads of little niggles - scuffed wheels, cracked interior bits, no evidence of the belts being done correctly rather than just replaced, brakes, brake pipes, rust, blotchy paintwork etc. etc, yet it had an excellent service history and drove beautifully.
There are a lot of people here who say the same thing - you know what's wrong with yours, you don't know what's wrong with the nice shiny S2 with full service history.
It took me 6 months of spending to get my S2 'right' and it cost a lot more than I first budgeted, even though it seemed to have very little wrong with it at the time. There was nothing major or life threatening, just loads of little niggles - scuffed wheels, cracked interior bits, no evidence of the belts being done correctly rather than just replaced, brakes, brake pipes, rust, blotchy paintwork etc. etc, yet it had an excellent service history and drove beautifully.
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