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differences between early and late 993

Diesel130

Diesel130

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Are there any bodywork differences between non varioram and varioram 993's or is it just the engine. Pics of earlier ones just look more old fashioned, but can't see what the difference is ? Maybe just imagining it ?
 
It's worth getting the Peter Morgan 993 buyers guide as it gives you a lot of this type of info and also what to look out for etc. (It's actually morea thick pamphlet than a book but well worth a tenner).

Some 993 anoraks will be along in a momen to desciribe any differences to you[:D]

pp
 
Engine spec, gear ratios, seat design and the necessity of a steering rack brace if fitting 18"+ alloys on non-V cars

but essential the same
 
Wheels on the rears sit 15mm further in under the arches as early cars rears have ET70 offset rather than later ET55. This makes the car look a bit overbodied on the rear thus a bit "old fashioned". You can fit approved spacers to improve looks (and handling at extremes). I fitted 21mm stainless steel from PorschApart (I think Jasmine parts) I also put 7mm shims on front to widen slightly in sympathy. Brrrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!MN
 
ORIGINAL: burrow01

Some of the differences are highlighted here:

http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=219791

Sundeep - What is the differences in the seat design?

cheers

Pete
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the seat design was more 964 with their trademark side bolsters........... have a look at the pics of a 95 v 96 car and you can see the difference, but that's because IIRC there was only 1 seat option early on then there were 3 for the V's normal, Sports and Ruffled


and IIRC we got those long '21' ratios for the V's
 
Thanks for all your feedback. Yes, already got PM's buyers guide. In fact got them for both the 993 and 996 as I can't decide which to go for (but that was the subject of a different thread!).
 
ORIGINAL: MoC2S

And also, regarding 2 ferarris (!!) statement, the wheel offsets were ...
16" 55F 70 R
17" 55F 55R
18" 52F 65R
for narrow body only of course (40R wide body 18s)...

cheers, Maurice [:D]
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Hi Maurice,

I've just checked on the back of mine, and they are ET70 wheels..('94 model)

Pete
 
I have to agree with early 993s being fitted with 17" cup 2s using ET70 rather than ET55 as I have seen some with my own eyes. Haven't seen enough to know if it was all cars and when the change over was made. Unless they originally came with 16s and when the owners swapped to 17s they kept the same offsets (by mistake???) rather than going to ET55.

Ian.
 
Hi,

Mine was specced with the 17" wheels when new, and judging from the condition of the insides of the wheels they are original :)

cheers

Pete
 
ORIGINAL: ian_uk

I have to agree with early 993s being fitted with 17" cup 2s using ET70 rather than ET55 as I have seen some with my own eyes. Haven't seen enough to know if it was all cars and when the change over was made. Unless they originally came with 16s and when the owners swapped to 17s they kept the same offsets (by mistake???) rather than going to ET55.

Ian.
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I'm very confused, but curiously interested. What do "ET55" and "ET70" mean ??

If it's of any interest, my '94 car has 17s which are presumably original as they are specced on the original options list in the service book and on the label under the front lid.
 
ORIGINAL: Porker993

I'm very confused, but curiously interested. What do "ET55" and "ET70" mean ??

If it's of any interest, my '94 car has 17s which are presumably original as they are specced on the original options list in the service book and on the label under the front lid.
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It's the offset of the rear fixing surface (ie the bit on the wheel that fits against the hub) from the centre line of the wheel in mm. ET55 means 55mm offset from center line etc. The lower the offset the more the wheel sticks out.

If you have original 17s it should have the size and offset stamped next to the valve stem (eg 9 one side for 9 inches and 70 the other for 70mm offset).

Ian.
 
8x17 ET52 is a direct replacement for 9x17 ET55 as these are the same two fitments used for the 964 as well. Both sizes are fitted with the same tire size 255/40 ZR17. The 8x17 ET52 wheel is part number 993.362.126.00. I don't think there is such a size as 8x17 ET70.

I know Laura has the 17 inch ET70 wheels fitted to her 993 but I think she is on holiday at the moment. I am sure they had 9 / 70 stamped on them. We talked about them at the last meeting because her wheels did not stick out as far as everyone else's.

Perhaps Porsche raided the 968 parts bin for early 993s.

Ian.
 
But they are essentially the same car. The differences other than the engine type and gearbox type fitted are minor.

However they do drive differently IMHO. The 993 pre-varioram has to be revved more as the power lower down is not so good as in the varioram cars. If you drive the two back to back you can tell the difference.

Ian.
 
OK - great. Decision made. It'll be a later varioram 993 then ...

(unless I can find an early 996 with recently replaced engine!)
 
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