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Done something very silly, Drilled head help!

I've had the car about 4 years and not done the belt, the previous seller had a new water pump put on so i'm guessing the belts were done then mate.

As the towers going to have to come off I will get the belt done at the same time. I don't trust myself with the belt, my car mechanic confidence is at a low lol.
 
I'm quite surprised i didn't swear when i did it, I just starred at it in silence think I can't believe I've just done that!

Oh well todays a new day, the car will get back on the road after a couple of months of being parked up so i'm happy, its only money eh...hahaha
 
Hi Strath,

I unfortunately couldn't be further away mate, I'm in SE London.

If i'm not able to or my indie has issues rescuing my tower I'd happily wait and pay for the one you've got to be posted down whenever you'd have time mate.

I'll order a gasket now in preparation.

Ranj
 
no worries, I think I can put it through on the work courier for very little max ÂŁ10 but will check.

 
gents whats the chat with lifters in this situation even any tower is used, best putting the original ones in? mine have not been stored in oil just loose
 
Take the cam tower off and have a look before guesssing. There will be some "breakthrough" swarf. unfortunately you cannont rely on particles of swarf obligingly making thier way to the sump, they will MOST LIKELY become lodged in a crevice somewhere in the head as the oil, which is under no pressure other than gravity meanders its way over all the casting webs and back into the sump through the return gallery. I am not toally familliar with the 944 head but if it follows convention then the retrun gallery will be at the back of the head and you have pierced the casting towrds the front. My guess, no way back to the sump, too many cosy recesses to hide in. If you let the alloy swarf get to the sump then that is a minor disaster. Alloy swarf, DEPENDING ON ITS PHYSICAL SIZE can sometimes float, but if it sinks it will migrate to the pump eventually, and the effects of that wont be pleasant for pump, let alone the mains and big ends. You might be lucky and get all your swarf out by changing the oil, that is if it doesn't cling to any surface during the drain, and anyway to drain the oil properly you need run the engne to warm the oil up to reduce its viscosity so that its ability to drain is optimised, and as much clinging crap as possible is flushed out with the old oil, so it's catch twenty two-there. A crumb of comfort is that where you have broken through is far enough away from the sump return for it to become lodged in the head proper, so don't lose any sleep until you have had a desmond; i.e. desmond dekker-dekko/ look. Just getting in London mode; might, and its a big might, come and show off the new hood on the turbo cab but seeing as I have just come back from Siverstone classic Pauline might object a bit.
 

ORIGINAL: strath44

gents whats the chat with lifters in this situation even any tower is used, best putting the original ones in? mine have not been stored in oil just loose
It would go against the grain for me. If we could guarantee that the tappets all had indentical wear patterns then perhaps but what's to say that one won't be a bit sticky in a different bore, or that they will all seal sufficiently well for the oil pressure to pump them up. If they are loose stored but identified for posiiton, and are corrosion free then best to put the tower and the followers in as a matched set. Lots of gooey grease to hold the tappet in the tower as you turn it over or they will slide out. I will not make any guesses as to how you come to have a loose set not in the tower. This is just my opinion based on many years of working as an engineer, and building engines ranging from beetles through 924 and turbo to nissan silvias, and a single head gasket replacement on a 1982 944.

As Arthur Askey would say, in a funny voice, "I thank you".
 
just checked, they are gone (as in no longer there)

cam tower looks good though.

+1 one on the swarf I would no rely on the sump etc catching it.
 
Wow thanks of the input guys, I'm having the tower off later in the week hopefully so I guess I will find out what lies beneath then, hopefully should be an easy clean up.

If the tower is not repairable Strath i'll drop you a PM and see about getting your tower down south.
 

ORIGINAL: 924nutter

Take the cam tower off and have a look before guesssing. There will be some "breakthrough" swarf. unfortunately you cannont rely on particles of swarf obligingly making thier way to the sump, they will MOST LIKELY become lodged in a crevice somewhere in the head as the oil, which is under no pressure other than gravity meanders its way over all the casting webs and back into the sump through the return gallery. I am not toally familliar with the 944 head but if it follows convention then the retrun gallery will be at the back of the head and you have pierced the casting towrds the front. My guess, no way back to the sump, too many cosy recesses to hide in. If you let the alloy swarf get to the sump then that is a minor disaster. Alloy swarf, DEPENDING ON ITS PHYSICAL SIZE can sometimes float, but if it sinks it will migrate to the pump eventually, and the effects of that wont be pleasant for pump, let alone the mains and big ends. You might be lucky and get all your swarf out by changing the oil, that is if it doesn't cling to any surface during the drain, and anyway to drain the oil properly you need run the engne to warm the oil up to reduce its viscosity so that its ability to drain is optimised, and as much clinging crap as possible is flushed out with the old oil, so it's catch twenty two-there. A crumb of comfort is that where you have broken through is far enough away from the sump return for it to become lodged in the head proper, so don't lose any sleep until you have had a desmond; i.e. desmond dekker-dekko/ look. Just getting in London mode; might, and its a big might, come and show off the new hood on the turbo cab but seeing as I have just come back from Siverstone classic Pauline might object a bit.

There are 4 large oil drains from the head to the sump.

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Hi guys,

Just a quick update, I had the car collected by a local indie and he's used a "Time Sert" method to re tap all the mounting points on the fuel rail for me.
I did think about popping a different tower on in replacement but once the car with with the indie I just thought i'd leave him to do the work as i'm kidding myself to think it would be a straight forward swap and clean up for me.
I've just bought a new house so lots of work stacking up, just have to concede sometimes and let the pro's do their thing.

I'm so happy now the cars back on the road, can't beleive i let the poor girl sit for nearly 3 months.
 

ORIGINAL: Asiangunner
I'm so happy now the cars back on the road, can't beleive i let the poor girl sit for nearly 3 months.

Well, you know what the answer to that is, don't you?

(Clue: It involves sitting in the driver's seat grinning like a rock ape.)


Oli.
 

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