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Engine cutting out/rough idle

I tend to agree with Rodney, but I would have thought that a decent outfit would be able to determine a lot more before stripping the engine. Does the engine turn by hand? Have they pressure checked the cooling system? Have they tried a cylinder leakage test? It wouldn't cost that migh to pull out the plugs and pop an endoscope into the cylinders. It should be standard equipment in an OPC workshop.
 
Fred, I've spoken with Phil - he's on standby for me if there is no goodwill offer and agreed that Bolton should have a look at it initially as if he stripped it down the chance of goodwill disappears.

Update is Bolton will take the engine out and we can make a decision then whether or not it will need stripping - I can certainly ask them to do what Richard has suggested if all is not clear at that stage but agree with Rodney that there is a certain inevitability that the engine is lunched!
 
Well is it fixed or in the grave yard, head stone to read..

Here and not forgotten,
My darling half shaft
as broken in three,
Oil and water everywhere,
Should have bought a 993
 
or a warrantee...

yeah, thanks Barry! Think Phil was taking a peek at it on Friday whilst he was there on other business.

Went to see what was left of the engine on Thursday with Steve Webb, dealer principal at Bolton. Engine had been laid out on cardboard in the workshop for viewing. Think I share his view that nobody will ever be able to say why it let go. There is only one piston left! The outer casing is smashed, there is damage to the clutch, flywheel, starter motor, everything really. Some heat damage evident on a bit of the intermediate shaft but it's like a bomb went off in there. Currently waiting to hear if Porsche will offer any goodwill, otherwise Bolton want about £10k subject to what else they find...
 
Ouch!!
Not good news Rob. Have you looked around the breakers (Simon etc) to see if there are any engines available?

Cheers,
 
Phil Clark made a call for me but not sure who to. Am sure Phil can souce one if necessary. Still waiting to hear from Porsche, my final hope... Got an email from Honest John of The Telegraph motoring section today, perhaps he can shame them into doing something!

Was offered a generous [:eek:] £23500 as a part ex valuation if I buy a new car... once it's fixed! At least Dick Turpin wore a mask.

I am completely and utterly disillusioned by the whole affair.
 
Did you offer to be their defence in court when they are brought up on charges of highway robbery?

I think Phil is your best chance. I don't know how the OPCs stay in business.

May see you at the meeting on Wednesday night. You can tell Zeb all about the woes of 996 ownership whilst I extol the virtues of 964 motoring.

Cheers,
 
Sorry to hear of the tale of Woe!
Sounds frightening!
Good luck with the outcome and your right to ask advice on the forum!

 
Crikey - bad news ...

Surely there is is technically possible that whatever they messed up at the service - which causing the rough running - meant extra strain was put on the internals which was a contributory factor the the subsequent failure. Seems too much of co-incidence to me. I seem to remember, somewhere in the depths of hartech's web site, something about poor idling putting strain on thigs. Might be worth pursuing.(*)

Other thought is getting Baz at hartech to look at it to see what his repair would cost - could be a lot cheaper than Bolton OPC.

(*) Edited to add: just spotted you specialise in criminal and motoring law ... sounds like you have the right qualificiations to take Bolton to court over this ...
 
Rob,
You have my sympathy too;Diesel130 makes a good point,how an engine can implode without having had symptoms showing up on the analysis equipment or detected by experienced technicians beats me.What happened to all the work put in by Ralph Nader;everything points to manufacturing/design faults with this engine,given all the history available on this forum.
Probably see you Wed.
Cheers, Colin.
 
If someone from Bolton OPC turned up at the meeting we could have a public hanging in the car park. I understand it is still legal in Garstang. Or if it is cold a burning at the stake.

Cheers,
 
Good luck Rob - i think you have a better chance than most given the history of the car and your relationship with Bolton OPC - lets hope they do the right thing and sort it at minimal cost to you, or worst case, the same as taking it to Hartech.
 
Many thanks guys. I couldn't agree more with Diesel130. It's all too much of a coincidence. Really don't want it to end up at Court though - like to keep work and play time separate! Am told Porsche GB will be in touch tomorrow, the person dealing with it was off today so my fingers are firmly crossed.
 

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