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I removed the air pump and associated piping from my '79 SC a couple of years ago and fitted the cylinder blanking plugs from Berlyn services. I was then left with some unsightly holes in the rear sheet metal engine surrounds (the aforementioned tinware). I would really like to tidy these up now, probably by replacing with a piece without the holes rather than than all the hassle of welding up the holes. Two questions please: is the tin easily removed with everything in situ (engine, exhaust etc), what model tinware fits without modification (3.2 Carrera?).
Grateful again for your knowledge/ experience etc.
Regards
Ian
 
Ian,
For a while I had a 3.2 engine in my SC (very long and expensive story!!!!) with 3.2 tinware fitted, How ever when the original SC engine was refitted they could not fit/keep the 3.2 tin ware for some reason that I never got a full answer for.

Rats
 
Thanks Mark,
It's really only the piece nearest the back of the car that I am talking about. Do you think that it is so different to the 3.2 that it does not fit? Maybe a 2.7 one will do?

Ian


So many projects, so little time.
 
Ian, Tuthills blocked mine up with some aluminium tape, looks tidy, still there a year later and seems to work a treat...
 
Ian you can buy the piece you require new from Porsche, go to an OPC and search the parts with a parts person. Get the correct piece from an earlier model. I've backdated the heating on mine and used the correct tin which is from a 2.7 I think. I got it from a breakers, tell them what you want you might get lucky, otherwise buy new , they are about £20.00 I think. Try Pro-9.
 
See if you can get a Porsche parts man to search for

E 911.106.085.00

this is the engine tin without a hole for the air frump. You really need to order one and compare it to yours to make sure the fasteners are in the same place. It might be a 'returnable item' if it doesn't suit, check before ordering or you'll be stuck with it.
 
Thanks again Bones,
I'll give that a go, at £20 it's a lot better than all the work involved in welding and repainting.

Regards

Ian
 
Sure Dan,
It won't be for a few weeks, I appear to be stacking up jobs for the good weather (whenever that's going to arraive!!). Bones, should I put the result in Top Tips once complete?

Regards
Ian
 
Ian,
If it can wait we may be able to find the part at the Swindon open day since we will have access to the parts department.

Mark
 
Thanks Mark,
I'm glad somebody has their brain in gear today, I hadn't thought of that.

Regards
Ian
 

ORIGINAL: rattys


If it can wait we may be able to find the part at the Swindon open day since we will have access to the parts department.
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A hands in pocket moment then??[;)]
 
The rear tinware you need is from a 1974 2.7 as Bones says. This is an identical fit to your later panel but with no holes in at all. On pre airpump 2.7s the pipes from the engine fan unit pass down through the side tinware. I don't know the setup on earlier than 2.7 cars.
I think you will need to remove the silencer and take your panel out from under the car. The beam which links the engine to the engine mounts, plus the width of the panel won't allow it out through the engine compartment. At worst you may have to drop the back of the engine a little for more space, but I don't think so.
I do have this job to do on my own car. I changed from 2.7 to 3.0 a few years ago, keeping my earlier SSI exhaust and ditched the airpump setup.
I used large rubber blanking plugs from a lorry motor factor to tidy that tinware problem.

Mike
 
This is interesting-it is exactly what I am planning to do.I was thinking about ordering up a set of Carrera 3.0 tinwork.I expect that may have the same part nos as the 2.7 engine.
 
Just be aware before anyone orders that there are five part nos for just this one piece of tinware
E 911.106.085.00
911.106.085.02
911.106.085.03
911.106.085.04
911.106.085.05

and thats before we get to the SC and Carrera 3.2!
I'm pretty sure this one is the one without the air pump hole
E 911.106.085.00,
a long serving OPC parts person will know.

 
Bones, Mike,
Thanks for the info, I think that I will check the OPC info at our get together next month. Mike do you know why the 3.0 Carrera one does not fit, but the 2.7 does? It sounds from the above that we may be able to do a bulk order!!

Thanks again
Regards
Ian
 
Ian
I have compared visually the 2.7 piece against the 3.0 (in the car) and can't see why sizewise there is any diference - I could be wrong here . The full length of the 2.7 piece is 910mm measured on the longest face - that which butts up against the engine. The 3.0 is difficult to measure accurately in the car but seems the same. The 3.0 engine however seems a tighter fit in the engine compartment compared with my previous 2.7 when it comes to removing sparking plugs etc. so maybe the engine with tinware overall is a shade wider. Can't answer the 3.0 Carrera - sorry.

The panel shows no part number but will have a better look at the panels when the weekend comes. I am tempted to fit the 2.7 panel but I don't want to remove a silencer when there is no problem with it.

Certainly as Bones says caution, correct part nos and a good parts man is needed here.

Mike
 
Mike,
Thanks again, good advice. I may try the guy at AFN Reading, I think his name is Kelvin, I remember he is very switched on and helpful. More than can be said of some around the OPCs!! More later, I'll let you know how I get on.

Regards

Ian
 
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