To add a third, if you want something as specific as the lighter 924 shell with a 16v or turbo lump. Or, a fourth, if you have a really good shell (possibly even without a sunroof) that needs a new engine anyway, and a really rusty car with a good engine. Either way it's going to involve a lot of work. So, either very expensive or you do it yourself. Of course none of these really explain Peter's route....[
][][]I'd refer my (very) learned friend to my earlier comments, and suggest that a 924 with a 16v or turbo lump is "something that was never built". Making one decent car out of two faulty ones (one rusty, one with a duff engine) is an option, but I'd question whether the costs really work out - when you consider the residual value of the cars in terms of parts, vs. the time taken to build one good car and the consequent value of that car. Although, as a project it could be worth it for the experience. Totally agree with your comment about Mr Empson. I suspect he will be along soon to agree as well! [
] Oli.
Ah, but it would be a logical progression. I refer M'Lud to the fact that the 924 was already fitted with the 2.5 N/A engine, but it was withdrawn before the 16V or 3.0 block were released. I rest my case, of course. My learned friend should be aware that there were two generations of turbo'd 924......[
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Unfortunately you will not get a plethora of replies saying that as hardly anyone that we know of in the club has done this because certainly the easiest and cheapest route is to buy the 3L S2 having left Porsche to do all the hard work of fitting everything at the factory. This is not to discourage you as we all like to see slightly different variations of our cars, and some of us would love to see some totally off the wall and wacky installations (my own engine is hardly standard after all [
]). I'm not sure where in the country you are but centrally located RPM or JZ Machtech would be a good bet to talk to initially as they have both done this work before.
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]) had scored all the cylinders with shrapnel. The dyno after that was still only 160bhp at the flywheel. Again though, the before and after was mostly just a smoother more responsive engine. All in all I'd say that I wouldn't bother again with spending big money on a 2.5 8v. If you do go ahead with the engine you have then maybe it would be adviseable to speak to, and have the whole job done by one person who has done it before - such as the guys at EMC. They did tell me that 190bhp is attainable but at severely reduced mpg. If still you fancy the idea of ending up with something a little different, rather than the more sensible option of just buying an S2 or Turbo, then my advice would be start with a different engine. Once my car is back from the bodyshop I'm considering doing just that. It would have been far more sensible to sell it on as it is and start again - but I'm attached to it. Other excuse is that I know exactly where I am with the car and am not starting from scratch with a new one. ..I can also argue that I kept another earlyish 944 on the road rather than let it rot.[] I think I echo the message from most of the other chaps. Go in to anything like this with your eyes (and wallet) wide open.
] I think your budget should get you to where you want to be quite easily. Mine has cost a bit more if I'm honest, I had to sit down and work it out for the insurance and it would be a bit over twice the higher figure mentioned to build one to the same spec again. This has been spread over a few years however so in my defence I'm not completely mad. Honest. Ok, to disprove that, when I have the space I hope to build a full on 924 GTR widebody, it will look retro but be anything but underneath the paint. I imagine it will have a tweaked 944T engine (one of SimonP's large capacity ones if he's still making them). This will be a really long term project and I want to do as much as I can myself, so completion would be years away. The engine in mine is an S2 lump, the cylinder head has been tweaked by SimonP but that's about it for the internals, I'm waiting to see how the boost experiments go before deciding what to do with the bottom end.
] I think Nicholas has explained why he wants to keep his car. To be honest I'm not sure the brakes and suspension are the handicap most people would probably imagine. Let's face it, it will be fairly rare to buy a car with recently replaced suspension and rebuilt calipers, so there's quite a bit of work and cost ahead to bring it up to spec anyway. If he is going to run a tuned 944T engine then he can skip the medium black and go straight to the big ones and put a suitable suspension setup on which will be much better than the stock S2 or Turbo setup. This could use up say a third of the budget mentioned leaving plenty left over for the engine and drivetrain. Patrick, I have to admit that most american V8's just don't do it for me. I know the 4 cylinder isn't the best sounding engine, but I am not keen on lazy sounding V8's either. Can't deny the power potential, but I'd still rather have a tuned 944T lump myself [].][&:][8|] NOS has to be the cheapest and easiest way to get hugely more power from any engine. I might even give it a go myself one day! Cheaper and easier to fit than any forced induction method of boost and much more of a power boost available than conventional tuning methods (gas flowing, chips etc).
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