Fibre Glass bumpers 1988 Car

Guest · Nov 11, 2003

Club Autosport does IROC bumpers but I e-mailed them some time ago and they said it was for widebody cars only. They may have changed this however.

ClubSport 911 · Nov 12, 2003

Hi Melv - no offense, but not everyone likes the "all over smooth" look of the 964. Whilst the 3.2 impact mught to some look "clumsy" it is in fact, the character of the car - hence (in my case) a desire to stick to the standard look

Thanks anyhow

Steve

Guest · Nov 12, 2003

but not everyone likes the "all over smooth" look of the 964

This includes me, which is why I have a 3.2 and not a 964.

So, I would like the f/glass bits to match the present shape, including front fogs etc.

Melv · Nov 12, 2003

No offense taken Steve! Just pointing somebody in the direction, and I'm with you on this. Why spoil a perfectly good looking car........

Despite being a 964 owner of some 8 years, I think the bumpers stick out too much to cover the bits underneath.

Some time ago my son did a Paintshop job on my Cup Car which included shortening the bumpers -I'll try and dig it out.

Melv

ClubSport 911 · Nov 12, 2003

BTW (and congrats on your new arrival)... I recently went to the Autojumble at Cornbury and picked up an aluminium bumper from a 3.2 and was stunned by the weight.

Aluminium maybe, but perhaps Unobtanium* screws for fixing perhaps

Steve

*(see film The Core)

Guest · Nov 12, 2003

Whilst aluminium may be light, if you use a large billet of it, which is what the bumpers are, then they are bound to be somewhat heavy.

I did think that they were quite heavy, but couldn't remember ever picking one up; so, ta for mentioning it.

I suppose we are lucky it is not off an early car, with it's 20Kg of ballast to try to tame the handling !

ClubSport 911 · Nov 13, 2003

Well, as I understand it, the biggest gain to be made (in % terms) is of course, not the front but the rear.

I.e if you move to GRP parts in the back of the 911, you get a much smaller moment of polar intertia, and as you all kno, referred intertia is a function (often) not of the mass, but of the mass coupled to the square of the axis distance. So.. the effect is in fact bigger than you might expect purely because of the mass alone (non linear equation)

I for one, find the front of my car "light" and the back "heavy" This is of course, understandable given all the stuff hanging behind the back axle line (engine ?) so anything that reduces this, lasts longer than aluminium, and preserves the original look, gets my vote.

Steve

Guest · Nov 13, 2003

Where would you expect the zero point of the axis to be - at the front wheels or a point of balance somewhere near the rear of the car?

Guest · Nov 13, 2003

It has to be between the wheels, as, when they oversteer too much, they spin around a point nearer the middle than the front wheels.

I am not sure that I explained that right.

Guest · Nov 13, 2003

Steve,
Would replacing the standard parts on your car devalue it in any way with it being such a rare model? I'm guessing if you keep the originals it would be fine??

Richard Pottle · Nov 20, 2003

Hi all.

I spoke to Mark Waring of World Wide Classics about getting a set of bumpers made up etc. He said that he had investigated the idea on a 911SC and what he would do would replace all all the very heavy bumper with polyester replicas but still utilizing the bellows. The rubber trim would be replaced and painted black.

He said that from a short distance it would look original but close up one could tell.

As as he hasn't made a set yet he mentioned that economies of scale wouldn't apply.

His contact details are as follows - just out of interest I have no connection with World-Wide Classics.

World-Wide Classics Tel: 020 8643 0456
EM: mark_waring@wwclassics.com
Web Site: www.wwclassics.com

Also, did anyone see a few months ago in 911 and Porsche World the 911 that they were giving away in a competition. That car had fibreglass impact bumpers. I will contact Phil Raby to try and find out where he got the parts.

Cheers

Rich