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Full Roll Cage On Ebay

ORIGINAL: John Sims
As a matter of interest (and perhaps prompting a bit of measuring and drawing when Beaky returns) what would people consider a fair price for such a piece of kit?
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Maybe we could pester him to make some more for his UK friends? [:)] It does seem to be a well thought out piece of kit and with the current exchange rate it would be a good price. Anything under £300 sounds good to me
 
As a matter of interest (and perhaps prompting a bit of measuring and drawing when Beaky returns) what would people consider a fair price for such a piece of kit?
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Tube and bits £60??

Welding accessories £10

Pipe bender £90



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Tube and bits £60


Make a mistake.....

Tube and bits £60??

DIY aint cheap [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

 
How much labour do professional cage builders charge? Surely they could whip up something similar in a jiffy. In fact you could get the triangulation if you utilised the front and rear seatbelt points - the photo of the Redline one in Pauls link looks like it only bolts into the rear seatbelt points. It could be designed to be removable - but the only problem is that it would mean you couldn't fit your trackday wheels in the back!
 
It was going to be about £1,500 for the weld-in with loads of diagonals and door bars I wanted last year.
 
Well I made an enquiry to John at Redline and he didn't seem to say he wasn't supplying them anymore (although he didn't specifically say he was, but it was implied). He says he charges $645 which includes $50 for shipping in the states. He's never shipped one abroad before so has no idea of the shipping costs. I've asked him to provide me with the weight and external dimensions of the box so I can make enquiries about shipping costs. I'll let you know. I don't think that $595 at the current exchange rate is bad at all for the product given the extra safety it provides and the added stiffness it'll bring. Although I don't know how much it would cost to ship at this point.

A work collegue that rallies a MK1 Escort has given me the contact details of the guy who built his rally car and manufactured his roll cage so if this option seems too pricey i'll get a quote from him to have something similar made up. It seems like an ideal solution for those who have a road car that want some added protection for the handful of trackdays they do a year.
 
At Bedford I was flat out in 3rd (100mph) into hairpin bends and I`m braking as little as possible. Believe me if you go off at 100mph+ sideways the slightest bump can roll you.

If nothing else harnesses will keep you in your seat so the minimum for me is a harness and guide bar. One has to assume the standard seat backs are strong enough but I`ll be getting proper seats one day. Second is a roll hoop and most ideal is a roll cage.

The trick is to make a jig of one. Its a simple box with specifically curved corners and some straight tube bracing. The only critical bits are the mounts

If we can get a one made a tube bender/welding company will make `em for peanuts, its the jig that the expensive bit. If I get a mo I`ll ring Fibre Form who`ll make anything if you give `em a drawing.

Jon you`re an autoCAD man. I can use it ok but I`m far from expert re 3D/wire modelling. If the hole references were measured and diagonalised?? and the interior measured in a sectional plane it would be a start and copper pipe used as a template?

Using clamps for the seat belt `outriggers` (weaker I know) you`ll get more `adjustment`

 
Well i've got the weights and dimensions. Can anyone suggest a decent shippers other than the usual courier companies?
 
ORIGINAL: sawood12

Well I made an enquiry to John at Redline and he didn't seem to say he wasn't supplying them anymore ....... It seems like an ideal solution for those who have a road car that want some added protection for the handful of trackdays they do a year.
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It is a very nice solution, and find myself tempted, but I wonder if ultimately it is going to be expensive.

With regard to shipping I would stick with the big international companies. I have had stuff shipped by US Postal Service and it was cheap, but took forever. John could get a price from them himself.

Obviously note that you will have to pay duty once it arrives in the UK so the price isn't just the Dollar rate plus shipping. I find that $=£ is a reasonable guide as to what you will ultimatly pay with shipping.

Based on the above I'm sure you could get a cage for £650.
 
I think you're right John, the quotes i've got so far from the main couriers are in the region of $200 - $300 which makes the total costs for importing one from Redline too expensive. I like the concept of this solution rather than a fully fledged half or full cage so might use my contact to fabricate something similar, with a few minor mods to my specification. I've been reading the rear seat delete thread as well and will probably go with that too and get an interior upholstorers to make up a peice of carpet that press-studs in place so I can put the seats back in when I come to sell the car on again. I think the weight trade between the rear seat delete and bolt in 'cage' will probably be nett zero - unlike a proper half or full cage which would add alot more wieght - and i'm sorry, but i'm not getting rid of the A/C or the power steering!!

I've got alot to be getting on with over the next few months!
 
I'm afraid i'm only half Scottish Fen, and it's my English half that requires the A/C and power steering!
 
Dare we ask John at Redline for his jig drawing?

Whats it worth to the club?

Once someone makes it I reckon over 50 would sell over a period, probably more as theres at least 5 people now want one.

Gonna make my own soon if this doesnt pan out [:)]
 
Could do but I noticed he has a patent pending so don't know if he would be willing to do that, but then again if he has no intention of exploiting the UK market, which is pretty modest at best, then he might not have a problem with it. I'll ask him.
 
if he has no intention of exploiting the UK market, which is pretty modest at best, then he might not have a problem with it.
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Exactly why a `small` licence payment might work [;)] Note that it would fit a lot of cars if the seat belt outriggers were modified. Still think it needs triangulating back to the rear turrets which will also brace them too [;)][;)]

With a drawing and one off to check for fit these I feel should be brought in for about £300 max uncoated for `say` 10+

Will they fit the 924`s? Are pre/post 88 etc different in respect to seat belt anchorages? Will they fit 968`s?
 
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from my limited knowledge (owned & raced a 924, S2 and now a Turbo S) I believe that the basic floorpan and central 'tub' no outer wings is the same for 924 through to 968. There may be differences with seat belt anchorage etc due to time lines and therefore different regulations ?

If possible, a cage that fits all models would certainly have a large potential.....

C
 
Why doesnt one of you get in touch with this outfit,
http://www.protectionandperformance.co.uk/
There up near Skipton in Yorkshire..
The "do" cages for ALL maner of machinery.. Dont let the land rover pics put you off. Last time i was there they had a pair of Ferrari 308,s in the car park waiting for a cage each...

Who knows they might have one "off the shelf"....[;)]
 
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