Genuine 944 S2 ?

[J.C944TurboMan]

Come accross this clean low mileage 944 S2 on ebay and after having spoken with the owner , I was not to sure it is worth the £4500 asking price he wants for the S2 ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1990-PORSCHE-944-S2-WHITE-/140486055151?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item20b59f14ef

He states it may need a new clutch , that may set you back £700

What price would you put on this S2 ? Do any of the PCGB members or users know this S2 ?

Thank you best regards J.C

 

[david924s]

I do not know the car but if the advert is correct it looks pretty good, no mention of when the water pump was done and if not at last belt change then it will need doing on the next one, belts should also be done on miles (40K) or age 4year approx so depends when they were done rather than mileage,

No close ups of the sills or wing bottoms which tend to rot so worth asking about them.

£4500 seems reasonable if the car is as good as it seems and mileage is genuine, a clutch in an S2 will be more than £700 though unless you do it yourself the clutch kit is £450 cheapest and around the same again to fit plus VAT, mine cost £900 but had no VAT and included the rear transmission linkage (£120) which may also be why this one has a sloppy gearchange.

Overall it looks in nice condition and has a good history but think he may struggle to sell on eBay if his reserve is £4500, to easy to look elsewhere as there are so many cheap nasty ones out there at present.

 

[zcacogp]

Sorry to say, given the prices of S2's these days, £4500 for one which may need a clutch doing soon sounds very steep.

And eBay never seems to be the best place to sell your 944; they always seem to fetch lower prices on there than elsewhere.


Oli.

 

[ukmastiff]

Plus one and plus one from me []

 

[Frenchy]

Looks right, if true description i would give £4500 for it, keep it right and rust free you would not loose on it.

 

[Peter Empson]

It took me a couple of goes to read through that ad, I hate all capitals.

Car sounds good to me if it's all true, pending the usual flash photography inside the sills and so on. Definately check about the belts as stated above, there's no mention that I saw so it's quite possible there could be quite a few hundred pounds due very soon.

Budget for it, but ignore the clutch, it should last to over 100K or more if looked after, if there's no slipping or major judder at the moment then chances are there's decent life left in it (not really sure why he mentions it). However whilst £700 for a clutch may be possible, I would expect the final bill by a specialist to be a fair bit higher than that as there are bound to be extras involved.

 

[Dickiet]

Looks good I paid £5K happily for a similar condition black 91 S2 with 110K last month after getting fed up looking at the rubbish advertised at £3-£4k.
Would go and have a good look though as my recent search showed most 944 vendors think theirs is the cleanest most rust free, best service history example left in the world and most are wrong.
I looked at several on Ebay and they were the worst of the lot.
Rich

 

[Big Dave]

Cant realy comment on the price as im a bit out of touch with S2 prices.
But on the clutch front.
IF the pedal bite point is towards the top of the travel then the clutch will be old ,
If it has a low bite point ,ie near to the floor then its a newish clutch.
If its midway then obviously is half worn.
This advice is all well and good so long as the master + slave cylinders are ok....They have a tendancy of pi551ng fluid out if the seals fail...

Definately check if its ever or recentlty had the cams +
cam chain checked, it mentions somerthing about the chain, but you need to clarify it.
Cams cost lots.££££££
Has it had the callipers checked for plate lift recently, thats another £250 ish , thankyou....
And finally if whites you thing then its ok, personally im not a fan of white cars....[Sorry Peter]...

 

[Peter Empson]

ORIGINAL: Big Dave
And finally if whites you thing then its ok, personally im not a fan of white cars....[Sorry Peter]...

Well if you're happy driving a slower colour then that's your choice []

 

[simkin911]

ORIGINAL: Dickiet

Looks good I paid £5K happily for a similar condition black 91 S2 with 110K last month after getting fed up looking at the rubbish advertised at £3-£4k.
Would go and have a good look though as my recent search showed most 944 vendors think theirs is the cleanest most rust free, best service history example left in the world and most are wrong.
I looked at several on Ebay and they were the worst of the lot.
Rich

I had the same experience. Looked for several months (albeit restricted choice to within 100 miles or so) and had more than a few disappointments after considering cars in £3k-£6k bracket. Ended up buying my old s2 back that I had sold 2 years previously - it was better than quite a few more expensive cars I'd viewed and I felt safe that I knew, to a degree, what to expect. Not perfect but very decent and excellent value for money.

 

[Big Dave]

ORIGINAL: Peter Empson

ORIGINAL: Big Dave
And finally if whites you thing then its ok, personally im not a fan of white cars....[Sorry Peter]...

Well if you're happy driving a slower colour then that's your choice []

Pete, funny thing is, my E30 BMW race car is white, although its covered in sponsorship decals..[][][]
Whites easier to repair, thats my excuse....[][][]

 

[Alpine]

the guy likes his exclamation marks !!!!!!!!!!!!!

my thoughts are that it does look a nice one, but I would certainly get it checked out with an inspection from a independant porsche specialist. It has low miles which is why he can price it high, but it might have bills coming up which would already be sorted on a higher mile car (such as the clutch - mine was changed at 90k).

I'd take his statement of no rust with some caution. It could still have rust at the bottom of the wings and in the cills if it has not been used much. Look inside the black plastic vents inside the door jam, with a torch.

Also, why is he selling after only 2 months of ownership? Sounds a bit odd to me. You need to meet the guy, certainly DO NOT buy it off ebay without seeing it in the flesh. I'd also get the previous owner's name and address off the V5 and contact him, to check that what he is saying is true. I'd prefer to buy a car off someone who has owned it for a few years, as it is more likely to be a good one.

Good luck, white is the best colour, ignore what everyone else says.

 

[912UK]

I saw it advertised and thought it was expensive ? just my view. I would want a cab for that money. Either he knows some thing or he is talking him self into saying the clutch needs doing it either does or it does not..

other than that I would rather also have later seats so for me this car would not be on my to buy list. To be offered £4k and turn it down.. I feel might have been a bit silly esp as he has only had it a while and it looks like he is flipping it to make a few ££ which in it's self is not an issue but just seems odd..

 

[944 man]

James, drinking and ranting on the internet is quite sad; dont you think?

 

[Suffolk944]

ORIGINAL: sc0tty

ORIGINAL: Dickiet

Looks good I paid £5K happily for a similar condition black 91 S2 with 110K last month after getting fed up looking at the rubbish advertised at £3-£4k.
Would go and have a good look though as my recent search showed most 944 vendors think theirs is the cleanest most rust free, best service history example left in the world and most are wrong.
I looked at several on Ebay and they were the worst of the lot.
Rich

Crikey, someone who thinks along the same lines as me. 98% of the muppets on here would rather buy the cheapest old 944 nail they can, and if the mileage is astronomic, they see that as a bonus. I would keep quite about having a nice clean 944 on here Dickiet, you and I are the minority. And heavens forbid if you actually wash your car, like it to look clean, and don't drive it everyday.


Here come the regular 'guests' aka non members to boast about how many millions miles they have on their daily sh1twagons........

/mod hat on
As a fully paid up member, while having a perfect right to express views I would repectively suggest that you and indeed all on here should follow the forum rules

http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/PCGB%20Forum%20Rules%20090205.pdf

I would draw your particular attention to paragraphs

3.1.1

3.1.6

4.1

Please adhere to these and all the others.

Thankyou

/mod hat off

 

[zcacogp]

Nice hat Jon. What do you keep underneath it?


Oli.

 

[pauljmcnulty]

Here come the regular 'guests' aka non members to boast about how many millions miles they have on their daily sh1twagons........

Jeez. I'm a member, and a volunteer who spends time at his own cost helping out here.

I don't want to hear this constant sniping from anyone. Member or not. If it makes you feel happier then my car has 125K miles on it, has a flat battery from not being used recently and is covered in road grime and salty muck. I'm sure it's rusting away as I speak, but it's great fun and only worth a few grand.

Chill out, accept that other people actually use their cars as every day cars, or go somewere else and moan. You've been invited to leave before, we've stuck up for you and asked fellow forum users not to pick on you. Sadly you can't avoid being abusive and the mods aren't going to keep baling you out. []

 

[simkin911]

ORIGINAL: sc0tty

ORIGINAL: Dickiet

Looks good I paid £5K happily for a similar condition black 91 S2 with 110K last month after getting fed up looking at the rubbish advertised at £3-£4k.
Would go and have a good look though as my recent search showed most 944 vendors think theirs is the cleanest most rust free, best service history example left in the world and most are wrong.
I looked at several on Ebay and they were the worst of the lot.
Rich

Crikey, someone who thinks along the same lines as me. 98% of the muppets on here would rather buy the cheapest old 944 nail they can, and if the mileage is astronomic, they see that as a bonus. I would keep quite about having a nice clean 944 on here Dickiet, you and I are the minority. And heavens forbid if you actually wash your car, like it to look clean, and don't drive it everyday.


Here come the regular 'guests' aka non members to boast about how many millions miles they have on their daily sh1twagons........

Totally and utterly unnecessary. Unworthy of comprehensive response for so many reasons.

 

[Fat Albert]

I am proud that the 944 is one of the few 'classic'sports cars that you can contemplate using as a daily driver in this day and age and this forum is a broad church of ownership experience and ability. I admire the guys who can devote so much time and energy to keeping their steeds in pristine condition, not something I have the time or spare cash to do, but also admire the guys that use them as well, both on the road and the track, we all bring our own experiences and flavours of ownership to this group.

I bought my high-mileage example because it was the best one that I had driven, much better than the 94k S2 I first drove and almost walked away from the idea of 944 ownership at that point, I am glad I didn't.

I did 2,300 business miles in mine last month, and enjoyed all the attention that a 22 year old sports Car generates when mixing it on the road network. I even had a MILF in a CLK500 come chasing after me out of the M6 Tolls so that her young son could have a look at the car last week

Edited to add Today's Daily Dilbert

 

[TheFiend]

ORIGINAL: Fat Albert

Yep... Scotty has that effect on people!!!