Geometry Set-up contacts...
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I had my geometry done recently at JZ Machtech, I know it's not between Reading and Bristol, but I felt I would mention it as I thought that if I was going to have it done, then I wanted it done by someone who I felt comfortable with. I live in Southend by the way a 114 mile round trip, much of it on the dreaded M25.
Anyway, for sometime I had had the feeling that the car floated a little, particularly on fast bends and I did not feel that comfortable with it. Probably my nerve/skill is not as strong as others.
The main "red" areas on the before print out centered around the front suspension, rather too much camber and the toe in was well out. The rear figures were all in green and within limits. However they made some small adjustments to rear camber and rear toe in.
The result. Two days after this I took the car to France and can only say that I felt so much more confident. The car turned in much better and held the line on long fast curves much better and felt much more stable. Cost £220 plus vat. Well worth it in my opinion.
For those interested, JZM use the motorsport tool to adjust the Kenematic toe in rather than the Porsche tools. Apparently the latter are difficult for independents to get.
Michael
Anyway, for sometime I had had the feeling that the car floated a little, particularly on fast bends and I did not feel that comfortable with it. Probably my nerve/skill is not as strong as others.
The main "red" areas on the before print out centered around the front suspension, rather too much camber and the toe in was well out. The rear figures were all in green and within limits. However they made some small adjustments to rear camber and rear toe in.
The result. Two days after this I took the car to France and can only say that I felt so much more confident. The car turned in much better and held the line on long fast curves much better and felt much more stable. Cost £220 plus vat. Well worth it in my opinion.
For those interested, JZM use the motorsport tool to adjust the Kenematic toe in rather than the Porsche tools. Apparently the latter are difficult for independents to get.
Michael
Gordon Attar
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These are the guys Northways recommend
4-wheel alignment/geometry done at Roadwheel tyres
>in Fleet (£80) Did a great job and highly recommend them.
>(http://www.roadwheel.co.uk)
>
Not too far from Reading, I'd recommend Peter Tognola at Datchet for alighnment. He did a good job on my 993. It was £120, but that was about 3 years ago.
A hearty recommendation for Chris Franklin of Center Gravity. He's based in Measham but is mobile and has his own state-of-the-art Beissbarth laser alignment kit that he can bring to you if need be. He has done a lot of work with the S2000 Owners Club forum, where I moderate, but was introduced to us by a former owner who subsequently bought a Porker.
It turns out that Chris himself owns a 911 and has done quite a lot of work on Porsches - race optimisation work as well as more basic alignment work.
He's hugely enthusiastic and a bona fide petrolhead - as well as being a thorougly nice bloke to boot. An unreserved thumbs up.
(Tell him Mark Turner - Lurking Lawyer from s2ki - sent you! [
] )
It turns out that Chris himself owns a 911 and has done quite a lot of work on Porsches - race optimisation work as well as more basic alignment work.
He's hugely enthusiastic and a bona fide petrolhead - as well as being a thorougly nice bloke to boot. An unreserved thumbs up.
(Tell him Mark Turner - Lurking Lawyer from s2ki - sent you! [
] )paul howells
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Guys,just a idea,post your settings from the differant companies,and see whats going on.
I am sure alot dont set them to the book!
We measured our kinematic toe change,many times at differant heights ,angles etc,they did not realy change,where ever we set the kin toe adjustment.
I am sure alot dont set them to the book!
We measured our kinematic toe change,many times at differant heights ,angles etc,they did not realy change,where ever we set the kin toe adjustment.
really interested in your settings, I went for "RS" settings at tognola, Peter and Greg are top guys, I use them and am based in Cheltenham - How's that for a recommendation
No affiliation, blah, blah, blah. Just very happy customer.
used other indies and Peter is the best for service, knowledge and value for money, I do use a well know indie in the NW for tuning, as he is a tuning god, but peter is the man for service and maintenance work, wouldn't go anywhere else.
No affiliation, blah, blah, blah. Just very happy customer.
used other indies and Peter is the best for service, knowledge and value for money, I do use a well know indie in the NW for tuning, as he is a tuning god, but peter is the man for service and maintenance work, wouldn't go anywhere else.
Yes I tried that but it did not work. I have sent you an email with the required link and asked if you could post the quoted part of my mail into this tread. The link goes to my web site where the inormation is stored in PDF format.
Hope you have better luck than me. I must try and figure out what is wrong.
Michael
Keith993c2
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there seems to be quite a range of prices out there.
i just had some new tyres fitted over at 'tyres northampton' and enquired about there geometry kit. they do it at 100 quid plus vat. anyone had there's done there, and if so what did they think? jzm seem to be pretty expensive compared to the rest??
i just had some new tyres fitted over at 'tyres northampton' and enquired about there geometry kit. they do it at 100 quid plus vat. anyone had there's done there, and if so what did they think? jzm seem to be pretty expensive compared to the rest??
oliverjamesthomas
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Kenny
Forget Yorkshire. Head over the border and go to see Robin at 9M. Don't ask any questions and don't ask people for opinions! Simply take my word for it and then let me know just how big a smile you have! [
]He's fettled my car twice now and appears to have an ancestor who was a wizard! Shortly before I took ownership, a certain noteable indie further south than us had done it and the results were comical. Robin is an absolute expert, is very down to earth and has quite probably forgotten more about setting up a chassis than many a person will ever learn!
Hope you're well!
Regards
ORIGINAL: MoC2S
Quick comment on Michael's setup ..
The 'after' is standard spec for all models, or pretty close .. certainly well within tolerances. So no black arts at JZ ! ..[
The red readings in 'before' .. caster is bit over, meaning extra self centre on the steering IIRC. Right front is toeing out a bit, so maybe a little 'darty'. They have taken some camber out so wear rates might improve at the expense of ultimate grip, but at least they are more even now .. [
FYI, RS settings differ in the camber - 50' more neg in front, 10' more R, and 5' more rear toe-in. Lower ride height too, of course ... so turn in is the major improvement here .. [
HTH, cheers, Maurice
Maurice, thanks for posting the info and for your comments. You are right the car is less darty, seems far more comfortable. You comment no "Black Art" at JZ, but then I asked them for a standard road set up so got what I exepected and wanted. I am sure, if asked, they could give a full track and be as radical as required. But perhaps I have misunderstood the meaning of "Black Art"
From the print out is they any data that relates to the kinematic set up?
What would be interesting is to get set up for same criteria, but from different people, since I believe this thread is about who can do a set up and more importantly who understands what they are doing.
Michael
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