Grand Tour on Amazon

[Waylander]

Are we in the midst of a forum take over?

 

[924Srr27l]

Talking of TV & Porsches and in particular 944's

The Wheeley Dealey Episode was on Quest today of the 944T that was bought off ebay for £2800 ish and modified for
track day use, I knew the seats are a fair whack but Ed reported the Electric chairs he removed to be 50kg a pair!

I was made up when they took off the Heavy 17" Cups off as Ed said they needed Lightweight ones to go faster on track!
So they put D90's in Orange on and 888;s

Anyone know what year this was ? I think it sold for 6k ish?

R

 

[jackois]

It seems that the Drive tribe thing is an 'online community' hosted by the three presenters...

'Drive Tribe positions itself as a "digital hub for motoring." It will host video, articles, social media and interactive content, which will be organised around "tribes" with a unique tone of voice.'

On the subject of the new programme, I'd like to have seen a few more cars & less of the new american racing car driver, but it's still Top Gear without the references.

 

[924Srr27l]

MIRROR Tabloid:

Bulletproof Jeremy Clarkson and his sidekicks wield firearms in their new show – and they’re not the only ones going in with all guns blazing...
Amazon Prime Video chiefs are so pleased with the programme that Clarkson is heading for a £20million bonus before it even hits the air this week.
His US bosses are considering extending The Grand Tour’s 36-show, three-year deal to 60 episodes over five years.
With Clarkson, 56, said to be on £10million per series of the motoring programme, that means an extra £20million.
His co-hosts James May, 53, and Richard Hammond, 46, plus producer Andy Wilman, 54, are believed to be on £7.2million per series – so they could bank nearly £15million more, sources suggest.
New images from the series show Clarkson, May and Hammond carrying guns during a stunt in Jordan. The trio pretend to be special forces on a mission to rescue the Queen.
Amazon.com chief executive Jeff Bezos has admitted launching The Grand Tour – in a deal believed to cost £160million – was "very, very, very ­expensive”.
Top Gear star Clarkson parted company with the BBC in disgrace last year after hitting producer Oisin Tymon in a row over food.
A source said: "Everyone at Amazon is hugely delighted with how The Grand Tour is shaping up. It was a huge investment but looks like paying off big time.
"It is very rare for executives to consider extending a deal before a show hits the air, but they believe Grand Tour is a real winner and want to make as many as possible.”
Top Gear earned the BBC £50million a year from overseas sales.
The source said: "Despite being the BBC’s biggest money-spinner the team were treated like a necessary nuisance.
"They rarely received praise – only complaints about their behaviour or on-screen antics.”

R

 

[John Sims]

I had a brief chat with the Hooligan Jez at the metropole hotel in the bar, he was fairly drunk and doing the Autosport Live action arena shows at the NEC the next day.
He was with Sniff Needell at the time and several blonde dancers all of them playing tequila slammer games...

R

Funny how 20 odd years ago I had a similar experience...well Tiffeny Dell was there (and we'll oiled) but , according to Tiff, Jeremy had gone home to his wife. How things change over the years.

 

[Waylander]

Today's episode, bit short on car content but it was dam funny, not a good idea for me to watch it as laughing hurts, hurts a lot

but worth the pain

 

[nikmartin9]

i like how those that clearly dont like the success that jezza and crew have and complain constantly about anything they do including much of the latter top gear stuff but continue to watch so they can complain about it

i dislike a lot of tosh (my opinion not everyones) on tv but then im smart enough to have figured out how to change channels when something comes on that i dont like so i dont have to bitch at those that do like it and criticise them for their choice

im liking grand tour and long may it continue to make me smile

 

[Tommys86]

My two cents - depends what you want? Pure entertainment or an informative car show?

As entertainment shows go it's extremely successful and so I've watched the first one (had to after reading all this!), safe to say as a entertainment show it ticked boxes.... as a car show you get absolutely squat information regarding real cars.... don't get me wrong I like to understand how supercars are developing, probably from someone who knows the ins & out of each of the cars, but whole episode seemed to be based on 3 supercars we'll probably never drive, buy or maybe even see, personally I don't plan on parting with £1 million for a car!

Do I find them amusing? yeah sure, but it's all a bit predictable - funny thing was I saw H & M on a BBC show talking about how it was appropriate to leave as it allows Top Gear to get the "make over it probably needs" but then I watched GT and I can't tell the difference?

Saw an BMW M2.... only information I gain was it can hold a fat person in it?.... its the best M but also the slowest M round a track?...... It has a switch from comfort to sport?...

GT take it for what it is - it's an entertainment show that'll have:
Presenters being silly....
unaffordable super cars in it...
silly races on various transport...
silly challenges or DIY projects that are loosely connected to cars...
exploding caravans...

Whoops I might have given away the rest of the series there? Some find it entertaining, some don't... but one thing for sure it's not an informative car show.

R you mentioned Wheeler Dealers? FYI Discovery 9pm tomorrow night - NEW wheeler dealers - they flip a 912E, know it's not a 944 but I'm gonna tune in!

I'll also watch GT episode 2 at but I ain't paying Amazon for the privilege!

Tom

 

[924Srr27l]

My two cents - depends what you want? Pure entertainment or an informative car show?

As entertainment shows go it's extremely successful and so I've watched the first one (had to after reading all this!), safe to say as a entertainment show it ticked boxes.... as a car show you get absolutely squat information regarding real cars.... don't get me wrong I like to understand how supercars are developing, probably from someone who knows the ins & out of each of the cars, but whole episode seemed to be based on 3 supercars we'll probably never drive, buy or maybe even see, personally I don't plan on parting with £1 million for a car!

Do I find them amusing? yeah sure, but it's all a bit predictable - funny thing was I saw H & M on a BBC show talking about how it was appropriate to leave as it allows Top Gear to get the "make over it probably needs" but then I watched GT and I can't tell the difference?

Saw an BMW M2.... only information I gain was it can hold a fat person in it?.... its the best M but also the slowest M round a track?...... It has a switch from comfort to sport?...

GT take it for what it is - it's an entertainment show that'll have:
Presenters being silly....
unaffordable super cars in it...
silly races on various transport...
silly challenges or DIY projects that are loosely connected to cars...
exploding caravans...
Whoops I might have given away the rest of the series there? Some find it entertaining, some don't... but one thing for sure it's not an informative car show.
R you mentioned Wheeler Dealers? FYI Discovery 9pm tomorrow night - NEW wheeler dealers - they flip a 912E, know it's not a 944 but I'm gonna tune in!
I'll also watch GT episode 2 at but I ain't paying Amazon for the privilege!
Tom

Very well described Tom,

I think for some people after seeing so much of the same thing, it does become boring and is very predictable.

More so for people like you and I who have and are involved in the industry as a profession, will and have learnt so much from REAL engineering
in the automotive Industry that any " Churlish Tat" in the Jez Clarkson & Team theme is really not appealing having seen it for too long.

I understand why they do it, Money

I understand why a lot of people watch it, for the spectacle and extreme events, comments and games but your right it's not a dedicated automotive car programme
and the producers and team would probaly agree also, they have a template which Jez started with the BBC, then they fell out and he's gone elsewhere to a investor
with a massive budget because it wants and knows it can milk this to earn a lot of money..

This is no different to SOME car dealers, they don't give a stuff about the Wheelbase dimensions, differential ratio or a car's pedigree, they just want money!

Wheeler Dealers I also could rib, as it's again done for "good TV" and they of course do not illustrate any "Labour" when they tot up, they also clearly BLAG a lot
of services and products and even though many cars do not turn a Profit, they often refer that they've saved the car from being scrapped instead.

The best informative, educational interesting Automotive programmes that I've seen are on Freeview Quest, the Supercar series and many others where it illustrates design, factory and manufacturing etc..

R

 

[graham tompkins]

"Boring and predictable"..................couldn't agree more

hmmmmmm, and Grand Tour is as well.

 

[944Scott]

Lets not forget that TG was never intended to be an informative car show and here on in GT it's the same (whilst capitalising on its global audience) if it ain't broke why would you fix it ? Amazon have been very shrewd especially with the hint of the series running possibly to 5-6 years. C,H & M are a class act that are hard to replicate as Chris Evans found out.

 

[924Srr27l]

Lets not forget that TG was never intended to be an informative car show and here on in GT it's the same (whilst capitalising on its global audience) if it ain't broke why would you fix it ? Amazon have been very shrewd especially with the hint of the series running possibly to 5-6 years. C,H & M are a class act that are hard to replicate as Chris Evans found out.

The original Top Gear started in 1977 as a monthly television series produced by the BBC and ran in its original format until 2001.
The programme was an informative car show covering motoring-related issues such as new car road tests, fuel economy, safety, the police, speeding, insurance, consumer issues, classic cars, motorbikes and a wide range of motorsport, also second-hand cars and holiday touring.

24 years up to 2001 the show ran in it's original format, presented by a selection of presenters such as Angela Rippon, Noel Edmonds, Tiff Needell, Tom Coyne,
William Woollard, Sue Barker, Frank Paige, Quentin Wilson, and more.

Jeremy Clarkson joined in 1988 and then James May in 1999.

In 2002 Clarkson and producer Andy Wilman successfully pitched for an hour show with a different format to the BBC reversing a previous decision to cancel
the programme in 2001 With features and stunts, competitions, and the regular destruction of caravans etc..

R

 

[graham tompkins]

"Boring and predictable"..................couldn't agree more

hmmmmmm, and Grand Tour is as well.

yawn.......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[944Scott]

Lets not forget that TG was never intended to be an informative car show and here on in GT it's the same (whilst capitalising on its global audience) if it ain't broke why would you fix it ? Amazon have been very shrewd especially with the hint of the series running possibly to 5-6 years. C,H & M are a class act that are hard to replicate as Chris Evans found out.

The original Top Gear started in 1977 as a monthly television series produced by the BBC and ran in its original format until 2001.
The programme was an informative car show covering motoring-related issues such as new car road tests, fuel economy, safety, the police, speeding, insurance, consumer issues, classic cars, motorbikes and a wide range of motorsport, also second-hand cars and holiday touring.

24 years up to 2001 the show ran in it's original format, presented by a selection of presenters such as Angela Rippon, Noel Edmonds, Tiff Needell, Tom Coyne,
William Woollard, Sue Barker, Frank Paige, Quentin Wilson, and more.

Jeremy Clarkson joined in 1988 and then James May in 1999.

In 2002 Clarkson and producer Andy Wilman successfully pitched for an hour show with a different format to the BBC reversing a previous decision to cancel
the programme in 2001 With features and stunts, competitions, and the regular destruction of caravans etc..

R

As your cut and paste says, it was but ahead of their decision to cancel it was reformatted into the program which its known for today, an entertainment program featuring cars.

 

[John Sims]

Each to his own. I don't watch soaps, or football or golf, or X Factor, or many other things which seem to top the viewing figures. Obviously many people do and, just because I don't like then, doesn't mean they shouldn't be shown. Yes Clarkson and Co. hoon around like adolescents, and are paid hansomly to do what most of us would do for free. The same could be said of professional footballers.

What Willman and Clarkson provided was the iterlectual property that made the BBC millions, and will now do the same for Amazon. Why shouldn't they be paid well for providing something which generates a great deal of money for others? And, for anyone who has had any involvement in any form of visual entertainment, just because they make it look easy doesn't mean they aren't working damn hard.

As Keith Moon once said, he may not be the best drummer, but he was the best in the style of Keith Moon. The BBC tried to do post Clarkson Top Gear and it didn't really work, so we can conclued Clarkson Hammond and May are the best in their field.

I do get a bit fed up of the whole "It's rubbish, I'm glad I didn't waste my time watching it" brigade. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it lacks merit.

 

[924Srr27l]

Each to his own. I don't watch soaps, or football or golf, or X Factor, or many other things which seem to top the viewing figures. Obviously many people do and, just because I don't like then, doesn't mean they shouldn't be shown. Yes Clarkson and Co. hoon around like adolescents, and are paid hansomly to do what most of us would do for free. The same could be said of professional footballers.
What Willman and Clarkson provided was the iterlectual property that made the BBC millions, and will now do the same for Amazon. Why shouldn't they be paid well for providing something which generates a great deal of money for others? And, for anyone who has had any involvement in any form of visual entertainment, just because they make it look easy doesn't mean they aren't working damn hard.
As Keith Moon once said, he may not be the best drummer, but he was the best in the style of Keith Moon. The BBC tried to do post Clarkson Top Gear and it didn't really work, so we can conclued Clarkson Hammond and May are the best in their field.
I do get a bit fed up of the whole "It's rubbish, I'm glad I didn't waste my time watching it" brigade. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it lacks merit.

Yeah but John just because something is successful, the people involved are working hard and making shed loads of money doesn't mean it's for
everyone's taste to like, or is it politically correct and Polite.

Some people don't like adverse, rude,slap stick humour, hence they won't be handing out any "merits" to this content, which doesn't make them any less a person
than those that do like and want to see explosions and automotive drama etc..

I watched Top Gear for 30 years, but I switched off approx. 6 years ago because the content was the same old stuff , boring & got long in the tooth. I've not seen GT
but It's not difficult to guess what the content was.


R