guards red paint...or is it orange????

[Guest]

Hi all,
Right got the rear bumper,valance and all the trim off the car and after thinking how heavy all the parts weighed,rubbed everthing down and few coats of etch primer for the alluminium parts and started on the red paint. This was mixed up by halfords,paint code L027 which is either guards red or india red or are they the same? Anyway after 4 coats and light rub down thought i would see what the colour match was like... well it looked very red when sprayed but against the car it looks very orangey!! Unless the paint wasn't mixed properly then i cant see where i went wrong? Will try and post a picture
Is there only one code L027 which is guards red or where there different shades for different years? Unlikely i know but need some advice please?[&o]

Cheers

Dave

 

[Guest]

it looks worse in the metal,believe me!!!

 

[bones]

Yep that would be orange!

 

[Mark_Bennett]

ORIGINAL: nessie

paint code L027 which is either guards red or india red or are they the same?

If I recall correctly, India Red is know as Guards Red in 2 markets, UK and USA...

 

[bones]

Guards Red and India Red are the same but there is no 'L' in the paint code it is '027'.

 

[harry]

Did you use the paint code for your car? My guards red is L80K so there obviously has been some changes over the years.

Harry

 

[Guest]

Thanx for all replies so far.
Gave them the paint code for the car and the sticker under the bonnet definately says L027.

 

[bones]

What car do you have Harry in the spec books Guards Red is 027, never heard of L027 although Porsche do seem to like to 'vary' things from time to time in a somewhat eccentric manner.

 

[Guest]

This might be a silly thing to say, but have you waxed the car but not the bumper yet? Only reason I ask is that the colour on my car (blue) deepens when I've given it a good wax. So I thought maybe if the paint on the body of your car is waxed but not the bumper, that might be the reason for an apparent difference in shades. It doesn't look to me so far away from the main body colour anyway.

 

[Guest]

Hi

Bones,i have an '85 3.2 carrera sport and the sticker under the bonnet and the sticker in the service book definately says L027 in both!!![&:]
And not a silly question john,the car is waxed and the bumper hasn't been yet,was just seeing how they matched as i went along the rubbing down process. Also it does look much worse in the metal than the photo shows!![&o]

Cheers

Dave

 

[Jonathan Collins]

I read somewhere that all Guards (India) red cars started life at the factory as white shells that were then put back through the paint shop for their top coat(s) of red. Can't see how this would make any difference to your problem though but you never know.

 

[harry]

ORIGINAL: bones

What car do you have Harry in the spec books Guards Red is 027, never heard of L027 although Porsche do seem to like to 'vary' things from time to time in a somewhat eccentric manner.

Bones,
My car is a 993RS. Factory code is L80K. The shade of guards red must have changed slightly.

Harry

 

[bones]

I think we're missing a bit of information here. 'L' must have some special meaning as it's on cars built later than mine, maybe it's a paint type i.e. water based. Incidentally your model car is specified as having a G1 code unless the 'RedBook' becomes innacurate for the later year cars , it's normally a reliable reference

 

[lesworth]

The sticker on My '88 Carrera has the paint code as L80K.

 

[tim court]

According to Renntech conventional paints and water based paints have different colour codes. 80K is conventional, 84A water based.

 

[tim court]

The plot thickens....

Check this out.....

http://www.paintscratch.com/cgi-bin/search_codes.cgi

Try L 0(zero)27 and it lists Guards red from 1973 to 1988 for some bizzare reason overlapping with LM3A 1980 to 1988....

80K creeps in during 1987....

This post is getting a bit an*l......

 

[bones]

........This post is getting a bit an*l......
yes but if you think of it as reseach rather than obsession it makes it a whole lot better. []

 

[Guest]

yes but if you think of it as reseach rather than obsession it makes it a whole lot better.

[]

 

[Guest]

Sounds like the colour could be mismatched but before you bang the counter at Halfords:

Guards/Indian Red is sprayed over a white basecoat (whatever the Porsche shade of white is) at the factory. It might be worth trying a test panel using this specification.

It is possible to spray the colour darker or lighter by varying the thinning of the paint and the air pressure. I can't remember which does what but a good bodyman will give you a clue.

Good luck!

 

[Guest]

Has anyone actually manageed to buy a can of "gaurds red" from Halfords (or anyone else)?

I tried last wekend and one of the constituent colours that is mixed to make the final colour is a bright orange that is a lead based paint - which is not stocked. Upshot is they can't make it up. They are looking for an alternative formulation.

Should I be asking for 84A (water based) or perhaps 80K instead?

BTW, I am intending to teach myself to paint something a little more ambitious than wheel centres with rattle cans and a dusty garage [&:]