Hello from new owner!

[George Elliott]

Hugh, - you may consider a Right Hand Drive Conversion, the Driving Position and Pedals will be perfect then, and you will be on the correct side for Clockwise circuits.[] But seriously, congratulations on your new car, leave the pedals, you will find they are perfect once you get used to them. They are odd because they are floor hinged - I think thats probably what you are finding, they are just different. You may look up Stefan Rosser video- RUF Yellowbird driver, there is some good footwell footage of him on the 'ring. (ignore the weiss socks)[8|] George 964RS 944T

 

[RSGulp]

For weight distribution the best seating position is slap bang in the middle. This can be achieved with a custom subframe for the seat, but you need to ditch the Blaupunkt stereo so the steering column can fit through the hole where it used to be. One advantage is you can have two gloveboxes (try Douglas Valley for a spare door) for keeping Werthers Originals and Tempo Tissues in.

 

[ChrisW]

Welcome Hugh --- I have a maritime N-GT and also have a second accelerator pedal on top of the original. All I can say is, it works --- and very very well for me. P.S. Mint Green is just the very best colour --- after Maritime Blue []

 

[h_____]

Thanks Chris! I look forward to seeing your car somewhere, i was very very keen to get either a mint green or Maritime blue car. Second pedal seems like a plan. George - my last 911 had same pedal arrangement, I just need to adjust them to suit me a bit I think. I've got so much to learn about how to drive it. Further drives indicate I've got some work to do to get used to the steering weight, clearly its heavy when fighting the car, and light when everything is balanced - just cant work out how to drive, so everything seems balanced. All part of the learning curve. Brakes feel superb though! Got to love the feedback underbraking, so much better than my old 3.2 or even my caterham!

 

[carreraboy]

The ABS is meant to be deployed .....enjoy[]

 

[h_____]

Thought I would update this thread a little. Having driven the car a little bit more and fiddled with the pedals I think I am nearly there. The accelerator pedal is easy to adjust, but still doesnt seem to come up quite high enough. Time to look at the brake pedal next then. Having taken all of the floor boards and pedal board out, I've since found that with an 8mm spanner you can adjust the throttle pedal without taking anything else out. Good opportunity to clean the area and grease the pedal pivots though. I notice a lot of the steering column bolts are marked for movement, did they come from the factory like this, or was that a race team thing?

 

[carreraboy]

Ask Derek Bell or Sean Edwardes .....

 

[h_____]

Reviving old thread OK, OK, I cant stand it any longer. I can't H&T in my car!!! it drives me mad. I can put my whole size 11 foot in between the brake and throttle pedal!! Having checked some cars at Outlon, they are all like that (odd!), so I want to fix it. It's not the hieght as I've adjusted that, its the distance. I'm not going to do the ballet like Chris does to get around this (still does my head in that!), so need to bridge the gap. What do people think of these? [link=http://www.srpracing.com/pd-964-porsche-racing-pedals.cfm]http://www.srpracing.com/pd-964-porsche-racing-pedals.cfm[/link] the ones with the extra spacing to the left? Any experience?

 

[Melv]

Hugh I've added throttle pedal rubber on top of extg and fitted Sparco metal bit offset onto the brake pedal -simples!

 

[Stewart H]

Hugh, it should be easier to do it with size 11 feet than my size 7s. You have to do it the old fashioned way by twisting your foot at the ankle. With more modern cars, all you have to do is rock your foot sideways to blip the throttle whereas the old way means you have to be more accurate (especially with smaller feet) in placing the ball of your right foot on the centre of the brake pedal so that the heel reaches across to the throttle pedal - if you don't get the ball of the foot on the braek pedal, you will ease the pressure off of the brakes as you apply pressure to the throttle. Fortunately, that's how I was taught to drive and at one stage, before ABS, I could combine it with cadence breaking as well. I dread to think what that sort of practice would do to me now.

 

[Hacki]

ORIGINAL: Stewart H Hugh, it should be easier to do it with size 11 feet than my size 7s. You have to do it the old fashioned way by twisting your foot at the ankle. With more modern cars, all you have to do is rock your foot sideways to blip the throttle whereas the old way means you have to be more accurate (especially with smaller feet) in placing the ball of your right foot on the centre of the brake pedal so that the heel reaches across to the throttle pedal - if you don't get the ball of the foot on the braek pedal, you will ease the pressure off of the brakes as you apply pressure to the throttle. Fortunately, that's how I was taught to drive and at one stage, before ABS, I could combine it with cadence breaking as well. I dread to think what that sort of practice would do to me now.

The geneartion after us will think about the old fashioned way of H & T like we think today about old trucks where you have to use the clutch twice for every gearshift..... The tip box in my car for sure is a disadvantage performancewise, but it´s so easy to handle. Just brake hard and pull the lever when it´s time. It´s the anchestor of today´s sequentiel gear boxes - in those modern cars you don´t need no clutch, no H & T, just pull or push the stick, electronics will do the rest. ...and, Hugh, I remember from the old Cup days that Klaus Graf once said (as an instructor) that he had totally different pedals in his Cup car, so it seemed to be a common problem for racing. But I don´t know any details. If you want me to, I can ask one of the race teams of those days what they did. Let me know. Rgds Hacki

 

[h_____]

Hacki, if you get the chance it would be good to know, I dont like the idea of drilling holes in the pedals, but seems to be the onlyoption. I'm used to less than an inch between the pedals and dont trust my ability to change my driving style. Melvs approach, or buy a modded throttle pedal seems the option at the moment. The brake doesnt seem very adjustable, and there doesnt appear to be any lateral movement in the pedal setup. Might have to buy one of these garish silver pedals then.....[:-]

 

[Steve Brookes]

More options for pedals for you here: [link=http://www.rennline.com/Pedals-Fully-Adjustable/products/273/]http://www.rennline.com/Pedals-Fully-Adjustable/products/273/[/link] http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/964-forum/309455-renntech-pedals.html?highlight=pedals I think the spacing on my RHD C2 must be quite different because there is no way I can get my size 8s between the pedals and consequently the spacing is ideal for H&T. I just don't do it enough but it works really nicely when I get it right []

 

[ChrisW]

This is why on the RHD 964 and 993 I brake with the ball of my foot and heel the accelerator. On the LHD 964 I heel the brake and toe the accelerator. And on everything 996 and since I heel the brake and toe the accelerator, otherwise the gaps are too large. My shoe size is 6 !!

 

[h_____]

Ok, a lot more options here. Thanks Steve, i'm tempted by the adjustable pedal, but also like the Renntech one, esp. as its loads cheaper. there are some good photos on there of installations too. Melv, I'd rather not mess with brake pedal, but does seem simple. I'm going to ponder this one a little........ Chris, I've no idea how you swap so easily, seems alien to me!

 

[RSGulp]

This is how my car came to me (from Des). No drilling of pedals so car is kept original - and a piece of shaped marine plywood which is tightly cable tied to the gas pedal then covered with a non-slip surface. A bit heath Robinson but could provide a solution for you.

 

[65 mat]

Don't know if you noticed in my car Hugh but I bought these: http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/ProductDetail.asp?cls=MSPORT&pcode=OMPOA1863 ...and for what they cost I just fitted the accelerator pedal. I like you was reluctant to drill the actual break pedal but was happy to drill the throttle since you can easily remove it from the car first of all, and it is just a cheap bit of plastic to replace (how much are they?). Didn't think the cable tie was a bad idea actually.[:-]

 

[Hacki]

ORIGINAL: h_____ Chris, I've no idea how you swap so easily, seems alien to me!

Here´s a pic that shows how Chris and his brother were raised - that explains it!

 

[h_____]

Quite liking the ply idea, might look into that. Yes did notice yours Matt, but forgot to ask. right, might have to get the hacksaw out - I'll be back in a while.

 

[ChrisW]

ORIGINAL: Hacki

ORIGINAL: h_____ Chris, I've no idea how you swap so easily, seems alien to me!

Here´s a pic that shows how Chris and his brother were raised - that explains it!

'Like it : ) Sister actually, she's trecking in Bhutan at the moment []