Help. Bodyshop needed!

[Yoda]

Hi Simon

I think you are right re documenting the the damage so that people can see what has been done. It is inevitable that a 15 year old car will have needed some paint so I think as long as it is documented well that should be sufficient.

Re the paint itself, my understanding was that only water based paints can be sold (took effect earlier this year) but if a bodyshop has existing stocks of lead (?) based paints they can be used until the middle of next year at which point they too will be banned. I don't think any paint will be as good / durable as the factory paint and this isn't easily replicated unless the car is stripped back to bare metal so it can be baked fully.

The other thing to be aware of is that I understand the 964 RS was never laquered or painted with clear coat in the same way that the other 964s were (to save weight). This will make the paint less durable to chipping etc which is an issue. You could always ask for it to be painted with clear coat even though it is non-original as this is a more durable finish and may have some additional UV inhibitors to help with fading. Just make sure the paint finish underneath is good as it obviously won't polish out!! A little polish is always a good way to tell if the RS paint is original or if it has been repainted incorrectly with a clear coat.

Bit of a minefield and lots to consider but this is where a good body shop will guide you through the options. Agree that doing parts of a red car is dangerous as I have seen several cars presented in varying shades of pink depending on the quality / age of paint. Not a good look.

Regards

 

[SimonExtreme]

ORIGINAL: bones

Simon have you considered selling the RS here and then buying out there?

Bones

There were 56 RHD car RS lightweights built. Originally 49 of them were delivered in the UK. As far as I can make out there are 4 cars in Oz. In the last 5 years, I am only aware of one coming on the market and that was a car that had been stripped out and modified for racing. It fetched over £40K.

Interestingly, I have just found out that Porsche AG built 2 rather special RS's that went to Oz. I hope Des i paying attention to this because this should make him really sick.

These 2 cars were built for the owner of the largest Porsche franchise in Oz (I believe it was the first as well). They were Clubsports and were built in RHD by the factory. I first heard of these cars while I was in Ozbut thought that maybe people were confused but a reputable Porsche specialist here in the UK claims to have evidence of these cars as well. So, there you have it. RHD 964 RS Clubsports. I bet that must sound like sacralige to Des[]

 

[SimonExtreme]

ORIGINAL: Yoda

Hi Simon

I think you are right re documenting the the damage so that people can see what has been done. It is inevitable that a 15 year old car will have needed some paint so I think as long as it is documented well that should be sufficient.

I hope so! Having now discussed my options with people I trust, I think that to do half the car would actually leave it with more questions than answers. For instance, one side would be perfect and the other would have stone chips to places like the rear wheel arch. The front pu, which was keyed as well, would be perfect yet the bonnet would have small stone chips. Finally there is the paint match problems made worse by being Guards Red.

Re the paint itself, my understanding was that only water based paints can be sold (took effect earlier this year) but if a bodyshop has existing stocks of lead (?) based paints they can be used until the middle of next year at which point they too will be banned. I don't think any paint will be as good / durable as the factory paint and this isn't easily replicated unless the car is stripped back to bare metal so it can be baked fully.

The other thing to be aware of is that I understand the 964 RS was never laquered or painted with clear coat in the same way that the other 964s were (to save weight). This will make the paint less durable to chipping etc which is an issue. You could always ask for it to be painted with clear coat even though it is non-original as this is a more durable finish and may have some additional UV inhibitors to help with fading. Just make sure the paint finish underneath is good as it obviously won't polish out!! A little polish is always a good way to tell if the RS paint is original or if it has been repainted incorrectly with a clear coat.

I have been visiting body shops today and I must say how impressed I was with Chris at 911 Bodyshop. Those who know him and his business will know that there are no flashy premises to be impressed by but what I did see was a lot of very nice 911's in various states of repair and it was easy to see the quality.

Chris has advised that he can still get the same type of paint as it had originally, although you won't be able to for much longer. We discussed a clearcoat but I just cannot bring myself to do this as it really isn't original. So, we will stay original and I will rely on the UV protection in Zaino, which seems to have done the trick for me this year.

[/quote]Bit of a minefield and lots to consider but this is where a good body shop will guide you through the options. Agree that doing parts of a red car is dangerous as I have seen several cars presented in varying shades of pink depending on the quality / age of paint. Not a good look.
[/quote] Yes, it is a minefield but with a little help from my friends on here, I stand a far better chance of doing the right thing and avoiding the dreaded "pink" patchwork quilt! I will leave that to the Rubystone boys[]

 

[bones]

so that's a no then! [] Chris Carty has done quite a bit of work for me over the years and it has all been A1. Incredibly knowledgeable about every nut and bolt for refitting, don't go for a laquered finish stick with the original paint only, much better looking when polished IMHO.

 

[rskiwi]

Hi Simon, I see that 911Classic are selling a Viper green RHD and are saying 72 imported to the UK? Also they are calling it an M003.
You will be pleased that yours is RHD as it is very difficult to get permission to drive LHD in OZ.I think if the car is garaged and not left in the sun too long and has good polish protection it should be ok unles you are in Queensland! You will probably get more damage from stone chips as some of the roads in the country are not to good.
Good Luck in Australia!
Jeff

 

[SimonExtreme]

Thanks Jeff. I have a very good car cover just in case I cannot park out of the sun for any length of time!

BTW, the Viper Green car is the subject of another thread.