Help with Gaz Gold Suspension.
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Ha, yes I was re-reading that email last night and it still escapes me how that rating works out to be 708lb/in effective, but he's been doing it for years and knows his stuff so I just take it for granted that he's right. I'm actually thinking of going up in spring rate soon.ORIGINAL: sawood12
Pat, i've seen that thread and though i'm an engineer by trade my eyes still glazed over! My conversion was obviously incorrect i.e. straight lb force to NM, it did sound a bit high! You may as well have solid steel collars instead of springs at that rate. To be honest Pat, i'm really happy with my setup and not too concerned with what the actual numbers are. It could do with some fine tuning of the bump and rebound rates - I think the rebound is a bit low at the back as I feel the rear sometimes bounces up too quickly over certain bumps. I'm gettiing the suspension height adjusted this year and i'll start messing with damping rates. However for a prodominantly street car that gets out on track a couple of times a year (if i'm lucky) I think i've got as good a compromise regarding spring stiffnesses as you could possibly hope for.
My only concern with the setup continues to be the A-Arm ball joints. I'll see what angle the A-Arms end up at once i'm happy with the ride height and decide then if I need Racers Edge A-Arms[].
I'm sure yours is a great setup for what you want from your car Scott. I think the KW is great kit although I'd be interested how this Gaz stuff rides. Isn't Gaz a company that rose from the ashes of Leda? They had their fans in the past so it could be very good value for money. I wonder what their valving is like compared to the KWs?
Has anyone ridden in 2 cars equipped with both brands back to back?
Big Dave
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I beleive its a lot harsher than standard KWv3...As the spring rates are stiffer. It is RACE kit after all....
For those who are interested, the KWv3 spring rates are,,,,with conversions to lb,s aswell....
front helper 20Nm / 120lb.
front main 60Nm / 340lb.
rear helper 10Nm / 57lb
rear main / 50Nm / 285lb...
I have posted these somewhere else on this very 944 forum, only recently,but it seems nobody digests this info....[8|][8|][8|][8|][8|]
lali
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Is the Gaz gold the remote kit or the normal coliover kit??
I think looking at the prices being quoted here that its the normal stuff not the remote race kit that you were looking at Dave. ( i might be wrong though)
I've got both kits, the remote on the 968 and the normal on the 924. And having driven both cars yesterday I can say without a shadow of a doubt the normal stuff is a LOT better suited to the road than the remote race kits - no surprises there then! But it is fairly similar in ride to what i remember the KW's being...
I think looking at the prices being quoted here that its the normal stuff not the remote race kit that you were looking at Dave. ( i might be wrong though)
I've got both kits, the remote on the 968 and the normal on the 924. And having driven both cars yesterday I can say without a shadow of a doubt the normal stuff is a LOT better suited to the road than the remote race kits - no surprises there then! But it is fairly similar in ride to what i remember the KW's being...
Dave, if the front helper is 20Nm / 120lb then wouldn't the front main be 3 x 120lb = 360lb etc?
Also it sounds like you're talking about the remote res. model vs a more street oriented setup subject of this thread, no?
Do you know what the setup is of the Race Version?What about cost of that as well?
Neil Haughey
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2-way race setup is 1250 quid or so +Vat. The actual setup of it depends really on how you spec it and who you get it from etc. My own has 400 lb fronts and 225 lb rear helpers as I asked for something that could still be used on the road. Another point to bear in mind is that the remote reservoir shocks have a different characteristic to normal shocks in that the reservoir can create a spring effect on rebound i.e the car will roll then lift a little to settle. EMC explained this to me and its something I recall reading about on one of the manufacturers websites for a different remote reservoir set entirely.
I've had Gaz Gold Coilovers on 3 TVR's and cannot fault them for a great fast/track combo. With the TVR's they improved the handling greatly from bumpy roads to smooth tracks.
I know the 944 is a heavier car, so the results might not be the same...also the standard 944 suspension even when 21 years old is probably better than some of the TVR stuff!
Going to be a slight delay before getting the car back due to GT one finding some pretty knackered fuel lines whilst having the rear apart......always the way with an older car.
Just for reference the Gaz Golds are not remote reservoir, they are fully adjustable for bump and rebound damping and the spring rates are 375lbs front and 225lbs rear.
As to the old MO30 suspension, I need to check the condition before I offer it up.
I know the 944 is a heavier car, so the results might not be the same...also the standard 944 suspension even when 21 years old is probably better than some of the TVR stuff!
Going to be a slight delay before getting the car back due to GT one finding some pretty knackered fuel lines whilst having the rear apart......always the way with an older car.
Just for reference the Gaz Golds are not remote reservoir, they are fully adjustable for bump and rebound damping and the spring rates are 375lbs front and 225lbs rear.
As to the old MO30 suspension, I need to check the condition before I offer it up.
Neil Haughey
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AFAIK the bump and rebound are adjusted together from a single adjuster? only the remote reservoir 2-way set have independent bump and rebound.
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