Ideas on door speakers please

[cococola]

I would like to know any alternatives for front speaker replacements.
I upgraded the door speakerson TWO occasions with Jbl speakers(higher wattage on the 2nd pair) and they were not bad untill they start buzzing/vibrating again[]
I would consider cutting the door panel if it involves decent looking/sounding speakers or is there another way of fitting speakers elsewhere in the front maybe?
I have great sounding speakers fitted in the boot rear quarters and the fronts let the system down.[&o]
Any pics would be very welcome too cheers!

 

[barks944]

I also fitted the JBL's mostly due too a lack of other options. Maybe separates would be a good option. A smallish speaker in the original hole and a tweater somewhere.

 

[jackregan]

I fitted some 6 x 4 kenwoods i think front and rear, a distinctly average sound, must do something LOUDER !

 

[Paz]

The only way to truly stop the speaker vibrating is to mount it to something stronger, most people use an MDF ring bolted to the door frame if there's ample metalwork.
You then mount the speaker to the MDF, the beauty of doing it this way is that it doesn't affect the outward appearance so everything looks standard.

If you wish to go the extra mile you could afix some bitumen soundproofing to the door skin(s), this will improve the sound quality still further.
I've found the added strength also mitigates carpark dents too.

I don't yet own a 944 but I may well do this if problems arise with the speakers . . .

 

[barks944]

Wouldnt MDF make the speakers stick out into the car more? The speakers are flush with the door card and the speaker grill just bolts on top of the speaker. Theres very little room for anything but the thinnest speakers and even they are right up against the runner for the window glass.

 

[jackregan]

I found that with the speaker almost touching the runner, I suppose thats a good point about owning a cab - no runner!

 

[Paz]

Sorry I had no idea there was so little room in the door, my past cars (VW's & Audi's) have always had lots of room between the door skin and the trim panel.

Looks like the only options are to have them protrude from the door trim or reposition them.


Get a nice exhaust and revel in the 944 symphony []

 

[TheFiend]

I currently have JBL GTO 6427 fiited to my front doors.... but now starting to think about fitting 5.25" components which will require some slight mods to the doors. But I will probably try and find a pair of door cards that I can modify so the car can always be returned back to original.

I like my sound systems simple but of good quality, so only plan on having the fronts driven by a 2-channel amp, and a 8" Sub run off another amp in the rear. But due to going away for a month this plan is going to have to wait until April.

 

[zcacogp]

A small (good quality) amp will make more difference to a small set-up than better speakers.

I have one in the boot, right-hand well. Not much bigger than a telephone directory, but it's an old-school RF and makes more difference to the sound than most people would think possible. It's not about loudness, more about making the sound bigger (that's the way that Mrs zcacogp put it, and I can't think of better words to use!)


Oli.

 

[barks944]

Ive got 6 speakers in mine atm all running of the head unit . Really need an amp.

 

[944Turbo]

10 speaker set up is a (rare) option, was looking for a photo and found this old article

the only page I have unfortunately and some are unimpressed by it, I think it is a big improvement on the standard 4 speakers though.
Tony

 

[cococola]

This looks intresting I wonder if I get some decent flat speakers that may mount behind the door pocket as I dont think the sound would be restricted too much maybe?(and an amp)[8|]

 

[944 man]

I owned a ten speaker car a long time ago. It was better than a standard series two four speaker & amp option, but it was far short of brilliant. The speakers were average at best, made by Nokia, if I recall correctly?

Simon

 

[MarkK]

Ive got the 10 speaker option on my Black 90 turbo,speakers must be getting old because my 20 year old tapes sound a bit hissy these days[]

 

[edh]

I think the 10 speaker systems sounds OK - I only have a cheap CD player in the car & don't expect miracles. It's much better than the same player in a 924S with single door speakers.
with thh 10 speaker setup there's a small amp (I think) mounted over the DME in the passenger footwell.

 

[James_G]

Many moons ago there was a white 944 Lux (on Cup 1s) on the car hi-fi scene that had a lovely Phoenix Gold amp in a Wild West themed boot install, and IIRC some footwell builds.

I then did this myself on MkII Cavalier and it's both easy to do and makes for an excellent soundstage and saves you having to hack your doors around. I can't remember if there's enough room by the pedals to fit something decent down there, but if there is I would be breaking out the fibreglass mating and making some up.

Then you can fit some really good component speakers and go to town.

 

[georgethackray]

I managed to squeeze some 6x9 speakers into my car last year, but it is a Cabriolet, and as Jackreagan said earlier in the thread, there's no runner in there. I suspect that a Coupe's window would foul the speaker.

Here's the thread aout it, it may give you some ideas:
http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=300188&mpage=1&key=&#300275

 

[charles.y]

I replaced the bth the front and rear with Infinity Reference and they are quite acoustic and well above average. The problem is the amplifier comes with the unit (the JVC unit comes with DAB only costs me £150 []) which is the weakest link IMO.

I am normally very fussy about musical components and listerning environment but just wouldn't bother with the cab's sound proof provision. I assume the coupe is a bit better in that area than the cab.

 

[Hilux]

I have the 10 speaker system and it is quality but with modern digital bass (any large amount of bass really) it cannot cope. At the mid to higher end it sounds crystal clear, very good in my car anyway.

I have thought of a small sub woofer but I`m no ICE expert so wondered how I could do this so I get a bass from the SW but retain the treble/tweeters. I assume an amp is deriguer to do this? Any advice would be fantastic.

Sorry to hijack thread a bit.

 

[944Turbo]

Was really proposing the 10 speaker as an option for putting newer speakers in, its probably still got funny sizes which will limit choice and pointing at your leg probably isn't the best for acoustics. The best 944 I have heard was Viv Railton's he had around 18 speakers in there fitted very discretely, plus some trick amps crossovers. He did work for one of the high end oe automotive stereo companies, did lots of work for Audi / Bentley / Aston iirc

There were a couple of articles by him in Porsche Post.

He used to post regularly on titanic but disappeared suddenly - he was a biker so hope it wasn't a nasty end, he was talking about taking a job in the states as well. Last posts I remember were about developing LED rear lights for the 944, maybe hes still in the shed working on them []