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In Car HI FI ... recommendations please?

JP_Albin

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Hi ,

I am thinking of upgrading the car Hifi, especially as now we have to stick to legal speed limits everywhere in Europe!!

I like the look of the Becker units (amber, as per a previous post), but my question is this... Can anyone recommend a decent specialist in South London/Surrey (Croydon) area?... If I am doing this, I am not going to Halfords, and I will want proper expert company, to do the Amp/headunit, proper build for speakers etc.

Any advice welcomed!

Thanks JP
 
Hi JP
Road Radio in Redhill may be worth a call.
They've fitted various stereos, sat nav etc for me in the past.
Manager's called Chris and has always been very helpful.
Regards
Steve

 
Hi, before i sold my 993 i spent a lot of time exploring options for speakers/head-units/etc.

Ultimately, i decided not to install an amplifier (as it may have been slightly instrusive with extra cables being routed to/from the battery). Just a personal view.

I did replace the head unit and the door speakers, and would be happy to offer some thoughts if helpful. my experience was that you can put 6" mid-bass units in the doors (JL Audio components fit perfectly into the stock speaker locations). I found them better than the 5.25" units as they offer slightly better bass response, and easy to replace as a DIY job (if you fancy saving some of the install cost).

 
Hi,

I've fitted the JL audio 6" and replaced the tweeters, quite an easy job and look like factory fit so would recommend also. The Becker units get a lot of good reviews and look factory fit. If you want to make the most of the after market speakers you'll need a separate amplifier, with space at a premium I opted for a Genesis profile. If you fancy replacing the rear shelf units you have a very limited choice, most of the 6"Âťx4"Âť don't come with grills and their height doesn't accommodate the reuse of the standard items. I found the best fit which took the extra power to be the JBL plate speakers, the standard grills fitted to cover them over. If you fancy going a step further for a little more bass, I'm not talking rattle the windows but more making its presence felt then Pioneer sell a powered sub. Of course I do prefer the air cooled note and use the system mainly on longer journeys. Dan
 
Having just replaced the orginal Sony with a Becker Mexio in my 993. One point to note is the Becker is a slightly larger unit, and I had to remove the fixing cage that most stereo's require in order to get the Becker to fit.

In addition to sound quality improvments the unit has a nice clean look, and is both logical and easy to use. Important points when you need to keep your eyes on the road.
 
Try Audio Design in Kingston-upon-Thames. They kitted out my 993 with all sorts of goodies and have done a other 993's before as well, so know these cars very well. Talk to the owner / manager Manni. I had them do some stuff on our Land Rover as well. The after-sales service and help has been superb as well.

(Note: you can fit quite a lot of kit away un-seen in a 993 - if you know what you are doing. An amp will fit under the drivers seat (in place of the original fittment Nokia one, if need be) and all the cabling hides away behind trim and under carpets. The space behind the padded panel behind he rear seats is very useful too. A decent installation will take time - but is worth it.)

tim
 
ORIGINAL: tim993

Try Audio Design in Kingston-upon-Thames. They kitted out my 993 with all sorts of goodies and have done a other 993's before as well, so know these cars very well. Talk to the owner / manager Manni. I had them do some stuff on our Land Rover as well. The after-sales service and help has been superb as well.

(Note: you can fit quite a lot of kit away un-seen in a 993 - if you know what you are doing. An amp will fit under the drivers seat (in place of the original fittment Nokia one, if need be) and all the cabling hides away behind trim and under carpets. The space behind the padded panel behind he rear seats is very useful too. A decent installation will take time - but is worth it.)

tim

Tim would be interested to hear what goodies you had fitted to your car. I certainly favour something that has Ipod conectability.

I want to change my head unit from an Alpine to a Becker to bring the car back to a more original looking installtion and to try to improve the overall performance, of the radio that is.

As suggested here the Becker Mexico is certainly an option but I wonder what people here thought about the various Becker navigation options. I would quite like to get routing instructions without having my Tom Tom stuck on the windscreen. With the Becker though there is not much of a map view and I wondered if this made navigation and route planning more difficult.

Appreciate any views comments

Michael
 
Hi Michael - okay since you ask:
The head unit is an Alpine, with flip out screen. I did not want a separate add-on navigation unit and though I'm sure the Becker units are fine, I find things so much easier with a decent size full colour screen to glance at.. This required a little work to the dash, as the screen comes up and goes back into a space created where the centre vents were originally - though these are still retained. Basically the centre air-vents are set further back in the dash (by cutting off enough of the plastic tube at the back of the (removable) vent unit that pushes into the metal elbow-pipe behind (which is of course left well alone). This also meant the piece of upper-dash below the centre vents had to be cut away and there was a little re-trimming needed either side of the gap now left by setting back the air vent. There is an ipod docking lead in the ash tray, which also serves as a perfect little receptacle to hold the ipod itself. The Alpine head-unit the gives full touch-screen control of the ipod, including displaying album covers etc. Speakers are Focal and have been fitted behind the Porsche grills, with front cross-overs in the door pockets and rear cross-overs behind the rear trim panel. There is also Bluetooth for the phone and a DAB tuner - though this latter item is not as good as i had hoped, mainly i think because we used a glass-mount inductive aerial, as I was not happy to drill a panel for a proper one. I think the amp is a Genesis unit which fits under the drivers seat and all the av-switching is done by a box under the passenger seat. I removed the CD-changer from the boot - opening up valuable luggage space, as the ipod makes this redundant. The Alpine unit will also play DVDs and CDs, though. There is also a USB socket (for MP3 players / memory sticks etc in the glove box as well, but i have not used it. The navigation maps and software are on an SD-card, so updates of either are easy to do.
The navigation works very well and seems to have a fast processor for quick re-routing etc. It took me to Le Mans, navigating the roads around the town to get to the circuit entrance. For some reason i am always deeply confused by the roads around that town!
I got the basic idea for where to fit a screen in a 993 from Rennlist, but the others i had read about did not retain the air-vents, so I think i am one of the first to do that. The Alpine screen extends out a fair distance before it flips up, which is also an essential element of making this all work. The radio 'socket' in a 993 is really at a very awkward angle and very close to the knobs above, so you can't even go the route of fitting one of the few head-units which has a built in colour screen, as these are just too bulky - or at least they were last year.
tim
 
Hi Tim,

Thanks very much for your detailed reply all very helpful and gives plenty of room for thought. Somewhere in the back of my mind I recall seeing some pictures of the modication to the air vents you describe, perhaps it was on Rennlist. I must have anotherv search.

I have to say I am not sure that I would go down that route as I have a slight aversion to making alterations to the design of the car. I have half toyed with the idea of having a remote screen driven from a standard sized head unit. As yet I have not found anything suitable, apart from a full in car computer system, and there will still always be the problem of where to fit the screen.

Thanks again for your reply and sorry it required so much typing.

Michael
 
Tim

Your solution sounds like a great idea - do you have any pictures of how the dash looks when your head unit is closed up? I remember struggling to get something done with a flip out screen a couple of years ago and sending the whole lot back in the end!
thanks
Charlie
 
I too wanted the Alpine flip out screen but decided against it due to the air vent issue, I also looked for a screen that would flip down (but there weren't any) so contacted Alpine to see if it was possible to tinker with their screen... alas no. I eventually went for the Alpine INA N333RR which is the 1 Din Navigation system - the speed of the system (DVD based) and clarity of the screen is actually pretty good - this was a few years ago now and I am unsure how Alpine have upgraded it / replaced it. GPS receivers are hidden under front bumper so no black squares on show.

For the record, it is quite spooky to read what kit other people have used. I too have a Genesis Profile 2 amp (under the passenger seat) and I went for the JL Audio 6.5" XR650 speakers. I found Boston Accostic FX7e's fitted the rear parcel shelf and I bought some new OEM grills as my originals were looking tired.
 
There are pictures on this thread on www.911uk.com

http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=29200&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=24

I did worry a bit about chopping the dash - but the cutting is only to the dash top (which unscrews quite easily from the rest of the dash) and the air vent. It could all be reversed if need be, but I like it as it now is - the modern car convenience of the unit offsets the slight loss in aesthtics - plus i still have my centre vent. If you look carefully, you will notice the vent is now 'upside down' - all to save vital millimetres to clear the screen as it reclines back into it's deployed position!

tim

 
Tim, this looks far better then those I have seen where the vents were removed. They have done a very good job.
 
thanks Shane - I would not have gone this far if I had to lose the vents!

I took her out for a spin today, and really enjoy the slightly anachronistic mix of hi-tech av in a low-tech car!

tim
 
Have another question on radio installation, prompted from another thread on the 996 section. With Becker and others you can connect a lead for an Ipod and control it with the head unit, with Ipod stowed in the glove compartment or wherever.

Does anyone know if this works the same way with the new Ipod Touch. This has more options than a normal Ipod , but can you still control the music playback via the head unit?

Tim, followed your link and your installation looks really good, but for the moment not quite sure if its for me.

Michael
 
Most existing connection kits will not work with the iPod Touch or the iPhone. All the manufacturers will be scrambling to release new, updated kits in the near future, I guess.

The Becker kit definitely doesn't work with the iPod Touch. I've tried it. Not a surprise though, since it doesn't even work with sixth-gen iPods.
 
ORIGINAL: poprock

Most existing connection kits will not work with the iPod Touch or the iPhone. All the manufacturers will be scrambling to release new, updated kits in the near future, I guess.

The Becker kit definitely doesn't work with the iPod Touch. I've tried it. Not a surprise though, since it doesn't even work with sixth-gen iPods.

Thanks for that. Looks like it's back to the drawing board.

Michael
 

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