Jimblack993C2S
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Dealer asking £100k for 30k miles 993 C4S on PH.
Will be interesting to see if 911V sell their £82k car and this one as well.
Will be interesting to see if 911V sell their £82k car and this one as well.
Increasing value of 993s
- Thread starter matthewb
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I bought a '1 owner' C4S in April last year, which had done 61,000 miles. I've added about 2,000 miles, and it's in professional storage, even though I'd love to use it more.
I've increased the 'agreed value' for insurance purposes to £ 70,000 from £47k, although the professional valuation for the purpose of replacement was £ 90,000.
I've increased the 'agreed value' for insurance purposes to £ 70,000 from £47k, although the professional valuation for the purpose of replacement was £ 90,000.
richbrowne
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I was up at Porsche Dick Lovett on Tuesday and look what I saw that made my day! ????
jdpef356 said:
I did - perhaps you should too! There were more narrow body cars sold in 94 - 96 before wide body cars had a full year of production. In 97 and 98 when wide body cars were in production for the whole year, more standard wide body cars were sold than narrow body. Based on your data, approx.:
1997 - Carrera 2 (50), Carrera 2S (200)
1998 - Carrera 4 (90), Carrera 4S (60)
If you bundle all variants in - cabrio, targa etc then it is different but they obviously didn't make them in the wide body so hardly a reasonable comparison
I saw the Lovetts 993 C4S and it's certainly a pretty thing.
Their new showroom has a number of classics alongside the contemporary models, as does their workshop - including a lhd 993C2S undergoing a total refresh.
And, yes, late 'narrow bodied' 993s are rarer than the 'wide bodied' 'S' models.
Their new showroom has a number of classics alongside the contemporary models, as does their workshop - including a lhd 993C2S undergoing a total refresh.
And, yes, late 'narrow bodied' 993s are rarer than the 'wide bodied' 'S' models.
Jimblack993C2S
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It was the 60,000 narrow bodied cars they made from 93-96 that makes the WB cars rarer surely ??
Come on, everyone likes a slightly wider bottom - the NB cars are just a bit boyish for me.
Come on, everyone likes a slightly wider bottom - the NB cars are just a bit boyish for me.
3.2, 964, 993, 996 - I've always preferred the simplicity of the narrow-bodied Coupes.
OK, the Turbos may have needed the wider running gear, but making the car fatter, doesn't make it better. Same with the 18" wheels, they do contribute to the aesthetics on the n/b and w/b cars - but I doubt they improve the drive.
OK, the Turbos may have needed the wider running gear, but making the car fatter, doesn't make it better. Same with the 18" wheels, they do contribute to the aesthetics on the n/b and w/b cars - but I doubt they improve the drive.
richbrowne
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I always thought the late 964s and 993s epitomised the classic 911 styling, especially the more muscular wide hips of the wide bodied 993s
I would agree with Oliver, and with no bias, I think a simple narrow body C2 manual is the best driving 993 (after the RS). The "S" models feel clumsy by comparison.
Love the look of the wide body though and we all have our preferences. Would be very dull if we all liked the same cars.
Love the look of the wide body though and we all have our preferences. Would be very dull if we all liked the same cars.
Jimblack993C2S
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I've owned both a NB C2 and my current C2S.
They both drive the same to me, except the WB looks 20% better.
I really couldn't tell the difference if blind folded but if anyone can, I bow to their superior skills
They both drive the same to me, except the WB looks 20% better.
I really couldn't tell the difference if blind folded but if anyone can, I bow to their superior skills
B'gad
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Jim, i agree with your preference for wide bottoms - my Turbo looks especially good in black. I must admit to being conflicted though when watching the recent episode of the 'Bridge' BBC4 Sat night, where blonde Swedish detective Saga Norens slim hips (not on a 993 though) look especially sexy. (not as rude, nor as sexist as it sounds - do watch!).
dave993cars
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condor said:
I have a real worry on now, I have had my 1997 (R reg) C4S since 2003, a year and a half ago I parked it up, (redundancy), it's in a dry, secure, alarmed garage,
regularly started and agreed an insurance value of £32,0000, the car has only covered 38,998 miles, I am putting it back on the road in the new year when the current insurance is due to be renewed, as you can imagine I am wondering what the value I need to insure it for, (certainly not £32,000)
Dave S
Jimblack993C2S
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A similar car to Dave S' but with 20k more miles has just sold at 911v for £82k, so I think you may be £20k short on your estimate.
Jim
Jim
richbrowne
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Dave S, I'd agree with Jim and look at getting an agreed value around the 80 to 90 mark. My C2S is agreed at it's valuation of 75K and I'm thinking that is on the low side now.
dave993cars
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richbrowne said:
Thanks for the replies, next challenge I see is finding an insurance company that will accept a value that reflects the current expected replacement value, any suggestions, thanks.
Dave S
richbrowne
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I'm with Classicline Insurance Dave. They have been very straightforward to deal with. Initially I tried Porsche recommended Lockton but they messed me around so I cancelled and went with CLI as recommended by a fellow PCGB member. ????dave993cars said:
I know others have had no issues with Lockton but I also know others that have.
I posted my issues regarding insuring with Lockton here:-
https://www.porscheclubgb.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=890237#894991
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