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Any factory seam welded, blueprinted, lightweight is a REAL "RS"

That includes variants in Light weight spec, Touring spec, and Race spec. (NOT rs yank lite Spec)

On anther point concerning 964rs values, I think we're going to look back at todays prices in 2 years and they will look cheap.
The old 2.7 rs cars have gone very high, and I can understand it to a point, - they are special and come from the same school of thought within Porsche as our 964rs's, but they are a bit fragile compared to our cars, and not therefore practical for regular use.

Our cars are useable, fun, but the supply is limited, - so they will continue to climb in value.
George

944t
964rs
 
I have asked myself many times what it is that makes the '64RS feel so special.

I have asked myself if I am mad not to prefer the easy and comfortable drive of the latest Porsche offerings.

And then I hit on it. The '64RS could be a very difficult car to drive well --- but when everything is working as it should, it is purely the least effort with maximum fun way of getting from a to b.

The super light flywheel (and it is) makes the balancing of engine a road speed in all gears a mission of magic, the short rifle bolt gear change, slim fitting seat, well weighted clutch and brakes that are totally linear, minimal input in heel and toeing and even (on the LHD cars) the heavy weight of the steering creates remarkable driver involvement. And not a computer in sight.

It's also refreshingly narrow --- threading the straightest line down a quiet, open road is sheer indulgence. Poetry in motion.

Just so long as the damned thing doesn't stall, and keep stalling when it's bone cold !

 
ORIGINAL: George Elliott

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The old 2.7 rs cars have gone very high, and I can understand it to a point, - they are special and come from the same school of thought within Porsche as our 964rs's, but they are a bit fragile compared to our cars, and not therefore practical for regular use.

I think calling he car that dominated Porsche club level racing for 20 years fragile is a bit off - surely the issue is cost and maintainability - there comes a point where the cost of 'serious' use prices most people out the game - especially when replacement components become rare or non obtainable.

This is the risk with the 964RS as values go up the viability of replicas increases, parts (wheels in our case) become unobtainable and the cars go into storage.

Tony

 
More crazy talk about future prices! I sold my RS when prices were still sensible, but if I still had one now it would be for sale immediately. I will eat my hat in 2 years time if current values are considered cheap!
 
ORIGINAL: 911Smonster

More crazy talk about future prices! I sold my RS when prices were still sensible, but if I still had one now it would be for sale immediately. I will eat my hat in 2 years time if current values are considered cheap!

To give Des time to prepare, is there any particular sauce you would like with it?
 
ORIGINAL: 911Smonster

More crazy talk about future prices! I sold my RS when prices were still sensible, but if I still had one now it would be for sale immediately. I will eat my hat in 2 years time if current values are considered cheap!

Rather than pound this nail, why don't you remind us when they have fallen ? If that happens ? !

I would be worrying about the value of your house if I were you ... latest speculation is of a readjustment in the order of 40% ?

Better still, you could worry for us all and leave us to continue doing what we enjoy, whilst we can.

 
i'd presume the gloomy outlook applies to your 2.4S as well? if the 64RS drops so will the 2.4S or are you suggesting that the two have appreciated in a seperate universe?
 
ORIGINAL: ChrisW

ORIGINAL: 911Smonster

More crazy talk about future prices! I sold my RS when prices were still sensible, but if I still had one now it would be for sale immediately. I will eat my hat in 2 years time if current values are considered cheap!

Rather than pound this nail, why don't you remind us when they have fallen ? If that happens ? !

I would be worrying about the value of your house if I were you ... latest speculation is of a readjustment in the order of 40% ?

Better still, you could worry for us all and leave us to continue doing what we enjoy, whilst we can.

Chris, which planet are you own London Market solid maybe will come off the top slightly as we have seen 30% increase over three years.....otherwise might be a N-GT on the market[&:]
 
ORIGINAL: Laurence Gibbs

i'd presume the gloomy outlook applies to your 2.4S as well? if the 64RS drops so will the 2.4S or are you suggesting that the two have appreciated in a seperate universe?

An interesting point, so for what will our 911Smonster be exchanging his cars ? [;)]

 
Except that there is a lot more background to that car than just it's mileage --- maybe the dent in the roof is a hint.

But what is now the RHD premium ? Andrew was bang on the money with his nice RHD Touring.
 
ORIGINAL: 964RS_DAB

and another one..... GMUND are asking £60k for a 24,000 mile right hooker, I think this car was sold by them earlier this year, it had an asking price of £45k then! that's 33% increase in less than a year....

http://www.gmundcars.com/cars/662/964rslightweight.html

CONFIRMED - this IS the car sold by Gmund this year. Even at trade Andrew must have paid more than he sold it for.

The last owner even put on 3,553 miles! Free motoring as Jason would say!
 
Paul, I popped in to see it this morning.

There it was in the doorway lined up to be --- collected.

At least I had 20 mins to look around the car (thankyou Stuart !) and it was lovely.

I don't know who the new owner will be, but they should be very very proud.

Even better, it has been driven -- but in price terms this is new territory.

So what do we do, wait for values to fall or review our insured values ? (Des says !!)
 
Has it actually sold Chris? It is still advertised on the Gmund web-site. I recall this happened with the midnight blue Touring. I contacted Andrew as I was interested but I was informed that a deposit had been lodged. It continued to advertised for several weeks and then allegedly sold to another party. (Narrow escape for me - now that I realise a Touring was not for me.) Must have been exceptional to reach £60k or thereabouts.
 
The only way to find out if it's sold is to try to buy it.

I also followed the sale of the Touring with more thana passing interest.

On the other hand, if a car is really lovely it is going to be an enthusiast magnet --- so if it sells too quickly, maybe you just have to, slow it down ??
 
I think the RHD at Hairpin has now sold, since it wasn't there for long I'd imagine it exchanged hands for the £60k asking price. The RHD at Gmund is no longer advertised which suggests two right hookers have sold in the last month for circa £60k. It would appear the 964RS market is still climbing or the RHD premuim widening....
 
As the 964RS market rises so will the parity between LHD and RHD ffor the domestic and row Markets. £60,000 is a dealer benchmark, offerring, PX, Finance, Warranty thus I would think the private UK RHD can be a little less. But as prices rise and as these cars have gone what will be the new "test" £65K for a good RHD and £60K private? Why not there seems to be a mass of mainly first time UK buyers who won't venture for the slightly more extreme LHD and feel sfaer with the C16 RHD. This makes a lot of sense.

Equally the pan-European and ROW market is bigger and on a car per wanted basis the LHD offers fewer built and demand is enevitably higher, just not a concentrated market.

The more rarer model N-GT and Cup Car seem to be breaking well above £50K obviously LHD, with the lightweights/Basic from £40K++

BUT THIS IS A GENERALISATION BASED ON REASONABLY GOOD CARS. Each car must be based on it's own merits and inspection.

So the Right Hooker 964RS is now GT3RS RHD money.....although the GT3RS is a lot newer and in many cases just with a few thousand miles....hmmm which would you buy?
 
Dear Sirs,
Does anyone currently know of a nice genuine 964 RS that could be up for sale ? I am in the process of selling my 993 C4. I would be grateful for any help and or, advice from any one of you experts on the marque !
 
Nick,

You need to look at ChrisWs car. High on originality. Plus left-hand drive - excellent feedback from the steering wheel and ideal for overtaking on circuits.You will be hard pressed to find better especially at his asking price.

Paul
 

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