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iPod integration

Guys,

Couple of points, my Nav-Tv all in, cost circa £355GBP. Also, unless whatever system is connected in, is using the "MOST" optic cable, then you will not be able to control the iPod through the PCM (manual control of the iPod may let you in for a question session from plod if you are seen). If you use a 3.5mm jack connection, I'm not sure what will happen (or not), when you have the iPod playing, with the carphone mute (if phone module is fitted), when either you dial out or receive a call, or when Tiffany (that's what we call her!) gives you directions. Might be worth checking these points with whoever you get your system fitted by.

Paul
 
Does the ipod switch off when the car is locked up and left? The reason I ask is because I have a Harmon Kardon ipod thing in my BMW and the ipod is left charging all the time, even when the car and the HK thing is off.

Becasue of that I tend to remove it and then forget to put it back etc.

I have been looking at the Nav TV set up for my 997, recommended to me as better than the Dension with the only shortfall being the redundancy of the CD multichanger.

 
DSM,

I have checked mine, and the iPod charge does switch off once you lock the car (I had to sit inside and lock myself in to prove this!). I would say, even after my high praise in an earlier post, my system has just started to mess about, sometimes I do not get the iPod connectivity (just a "single disc-no disc" error report on the PCM) or for some reason my phone module is disabled but the iPod works!! My install agent (Sextons) tell me that is probably a faulty optic cable, but have ordered a complete new install which should be here for Monday19th.

Sod's law, everything worked fine coming back home this afternoon [:)]

Paul
 
Had Dension unit fitted to our 997 GT3 recently to work a new ipod nano in the glovebox. Took a bit of sorting out as had to tell car's electronics to look for a cd unit, and even then optical connection from stereo header unit did not seem to light up as it should. Now works fine. Stops playing when switching to other source or when ignition switched off. While waiting for Dension unit to be sorted we were driving through France for a week so tried a Belkin FM transmitter unit that seemed quite neat as it charged the Ipod when plugged in. However it fell apart after a couple of days and the sound was poor at best. In N France the airwaves were so crowded that we could not find a frequency that wasn't already in use. ( Also suspect these FM transmitters may not be legal everywhere.)
 
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DSM,

I have checked mine, and the iPod charge does switch off once you lock the car (I had to sit inside and lock myself in to prove this!). I would say, even after my high praise in an earlier post, my system has just started to mess about, sometimes I do not get the iPod connectivity (just a "single disc-no disc" error report on the PCM) or for some reason my phone module is disabled but the iPod works!! My install agent (Sextons) tell me that is probably a faulty optic cable, but have ordered a complete new install which should be here for Monday19th.

Sod's law, everything worked fine coming back home this afternoon [:)]

Paul
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Thanks Paul, would be interested to hear if it gets fixed OK.
 
Below is a one-page PDF circulating the web on the Porsche iPod (Musicplayer) interface. The summary is:

* Audio in from both an Apple dock and a 3.5mm connection
* Located in the center console storage bin
* Presumably, power available from the Apple dock
* No ability to see any track info on the PCM - it just shows 'iPod'
* No ability to control the iPod on the PCM (apart from volume)

This seems essentially to be a Aux-in and no more.

ipod.jpg
 
That's the old Exclusive item brief as opposed to the Tequipement item that it is now. You can confirm by zooming into the PCM display and see how the image doesn't quite line up with the screen boundries.

Pop
 
Hi, been following the posts on this subject with a view to having my i pod integrated to my 06 c4s and was wondering if any one, who has the nav-tv integration, can tell me if the screen on the pcm responds quickly when scrolling through tracks.

Our local installer in glasgow <drivers> told me that they had fitted these successfully to a number of 997s and 996s over the last few months but had found that the higher the memory capacity of the ipod, the poorer the ability of the screen to cope with scrolling through tracks. I know this is anecdotal and from only one scource, but perhaps someone who has the direct experience could feed back.
 
Dave,

My installer (see earlier posts) has given up on trying to get the Nav-TV to work, I either lost my navigation or radio performance (cuts in and out) or the phone module, or the ipod wasn't seen by the PCM. On the odd occaision that it all did work, the PCM was slower than the CD functionality (60gb 5G iPodbut not impossible (the Gateway 500 seems much slower at the moment). Currently they are trying to get the new version Dension Gateway 500 to work, but again unless I start the engine then lift the bonnet, disconnect/reconnect the Ipod (it has to be installed next to the CD changer and navigation drive due to cable lengths) the system will not see it. IfI do this (each time I drive the car!!!!!!!!!! it is quite good). I am now waiting for Dension USA to come back with a fix. I do think that there is a power supply conflict and Sextons are looking into this. I should find out tomorrow Thursday 22nd. I will let you all know how this saga turns out.

If anyone out there has had a succesful installation of a NAV-Tv or Gateway 500 fitted into a 997 carrera2 06, onwards, can they supply the installer details so that I can get Sextons (my installer) to have a chat, as it seems that tech support from either equipment supplier is pretty dire.

Cheers

Paul
 
So the new cable didn't sort the issue Paul? Sorry to hear that. how long did it run OK for in the first place before it began to play up?
 
Paul, I heard of a similar situation and the fault was tracked to the GW500 being tapped into a switched supply as opposed to a permanent 12v.

Hope that helps.

Pop
 
Guys,

DSM, no the new cable (indeed a complete new system) did not solve the issues with the NAV-TV [:mad:]

Popolu, I would concur, [8|] I have identified to my installer that as soon as you switch the engine off, back to aux (radio only, no ignition) the system fails. They will be looking at this, also there is a firmware/software upgrade available from the Dension website, so I will get that installed as well.

One nice touch with the Dension (Gateway 500 system), is a small switch located next to the Porsche Nav DVD unit (next to the iPod location), which switches the G500 out of the "MOST" system. Basically this is a service switch, meaning that when you get your OPC to service the car, you flick the switch, then the OPC diagnostics kit will not see an unknown device and flag up errors. Once the service is done, flick the switch back, and you have your iPod available. You also do not lose the CD changer with the G500, as you do with the NAV-TV, well at least all this is correct if the damn systems would work.......[:mad:][:(].

Will keep you all informed.

Cheers

Paul
 
Paul

Had a long chat with the nav tv installer at Drivers in Glasgow, he confirmed a number of issus with the nav - tv install, and that their early experiences in 2005 911s had been bad but that recently they were far more successful. In his opinion it seems to be a bit hit and miss and very dependent on what version of soft ware the vehicle has installed by Porsche at the time of manufacture and that later models were better. He also felt that the gb capacity of the ipod was not relevant.

He sited an example of a total failure of nav - tv on a 2006 cayenne one week and a totally event free install on the same make and model the following week. The manufactures of nav- tv said that they could fix any install problem using their software but were not willing to let Drivers in Glasgow have this software. This seems strange since,obviously, the customer is having issues with their product.Travelling to their palce is not an appealling prospect. < not that i mind journeys in my c4s !>

In addition to all this, the guy at drivers said that that dension system was even worse, and that they had stopped even attempting to install them since it had proved almost impossible to make those operate with any degree of consistency.

I a m sure that George at Drivers would be happy to talk to you /your installer, he is a very good bloke and i have dealt with them for years. <tel 0141 332 5800> hope this is of use.

dave
 
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