SimonExtreme
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No, this is not about personal preferences. That has been done to death and the only conclusion I can draw is "each to their own" (even if RHD is better[
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However, Des raised some interesting questions (well, I thought they were!) so a little research was called for. So Des, to answer your questions......
1. My car does not have underseal. It seems to have been painted a very thin coat of mat black undernieth.
2. I haven't taken up the rear carpet, but I can feel what I think are the 2 harness bolt holes. I will confirm when I replace the carpet.
I then began to look up more information to see what could be learnt. 2 interesting bits of Porsche official documentation leave almost as many questions as they do answers!
Firstly, I looked at the parts book (PET). I have looled at all the pages of the body section and have identified only one difference between the parts for the rhd and lhd RS's and that is to take the power steering. Otherwise, the body is the same. In addition, the part number for a complete RS body is the same for rhd and lhd (???) and it seems you just specify which you want! Of course, a whole body was only available when they were in production.
However, it doesn't seem to be as simple as that! Under the part descrition for an RS body, it states " see workshop manual Carrera 2 body GR 50/51/53". So that is what I did next!
Those sections are titled
50 - Body, Front - Scope of conversion for 911 Carrera RS - Body in white
51 - Body, Centre - Scope of.............
53 - Body Rear - Scope.. .............. (you get the picture!)
I find it interesting that even though there is a part number for the RS body, they still direct you to that section of the workshop manual. Why? I cannot answer that but only speculate. I wonder if what they sold was a C2 body with the parts to make it into an RS one and you had to do the work.
Anyway, looking at the workshop manual is interesting and I can say that I have now checked almost everything shown in sections 50/51/53 (what did happen to section 52!!) and my car has all those bits except one! What is most suprising is the bit that is missing is something that I have been told doesn't exist on any RS, namely a bolt for a crutch strap. However, the manual shows how and where to fit one.
Going back to the PET, I can find many parts for an RS but, except for the steering rack, there are no other differences between rhd and lhd.
I have then looked and read as much other stuff as possible. It seems that Porsche only just managed to build the 1000 cars needed to be built in time for the RS to be homologated for the 92 season. There seems little doubt that the cars were built in batches and from all I can see, I suspect but cannot prove that some of the RHD cars were included in the 1000 needed for homologation. As the steering was the only "non common" element and this did not need to be homologated, there is no reason why the rhd cars wouldn't have been counted towards the target.
If anybody has production figures by "month", this would help confirm or otherwise, whether rhd cars were counted towards the 1000 cars needed for homologation. There were rhd car built before the cut off date (31/12/91). All cars were defined as being MY 1992.
So, I can hear some of you asking why is this important and even, who cares. My answer is simple. The 964 RS is becoming collectable and is increasing in value. One thing people like is history and to me, at the moment, there seems to be a lot fo speculation and hearsay. The onger the definitive story is left, the less likely of getting it right.
])However, Des raised some interesting questions (well, I thought they were!) so a little research was called for. So Des, to answer your questions......
1. My car does not have underseal. It seems to have been painted a very thin coat of mat black undernieth.
2. I haven't taken up the rear carpet, but I can feel what I think are the 2 harness bolt holes. I will confirm when I replace the carpet.
I then began to look up more information to see what could be learnt. 2 interesting bits of Porsche official documentation leave almost as many questions as they do answers!
Firstly, I looked at the parts book (PET). I have looled at all the pages of the body section and have identified only one difference between the parts for the rhd and lhd RS's and that is to take the power steering. Otherwise, the body is the same. In addition, the part number for a complete RS body is the same for rhd and lhd (???) and it seems you just specify which you want! Of course, a whole body was only available when they were in production.
However, it doesn't seem to be as simple as that! Under the part descrition for an RS body, it states " see workshop manual Carrera 2 body GR 50/51/53". So that is what I did next!
Those sections are titled
50 - Body, Front - Scope of conversion for 911 Carrera RS - Body in white
51 - Body, Centre - Scope of.............
53 - Body Rear - Scope.. .............. (you get the picture!)
I find it interesting that even though there is a part number for the RS body, they still direct you to that section of the workshop manual. Why? I cannot answer that but only speculate. I wonder if what they sold was a C2 body with the parts to make it into an RS one and you had to do the work.
Anyway, looking at the workshop manual is interesting and I can say that I have now checked almost everything shown in sections 50/51/53 (what did happen to section 52!!) and my car has all those bits except one! What is most suprising is the bit that is missing is something that I have been told doesn't exist on any RS, namely a bolt for a crutch strap. However, the manual shows how and where to fit one.
Going back to the PET, I can find many parts for an RS but, except for the steering rack, there are no other differences between rhd and lhd.
I have then looked and read as much other stuff as possible. It seems that Porsche only just managed to build the 1000 cars needed to be built in time for the RS to be homologated for the 92 season. There seems little doubt that the cars were built in batches and from all I can see, I suspect but cannot prove that some of the RHD cars were included in the 1000 needed for homologation. As the steering was the only "non common" element and this did not need to be homologated, there is no reason why the rhd cars wouldn't have been counted towards the target.
If anybody has production figures by "month", this would help confirm or otherwise, whether rhd cars were counted towards the 1000 cars needed for homologation. There were rhd car built before the cut off date (31/12/91). All cars were defined as being MY 1992.
So, I can hear some of you asking why is this important and even, who cares. My answer is simple. The 964 RS is becoming collectable and is increasing in value. One thing people like is history and to me, at the moment, there seems to be a lot fo speculation and hearsay. The onger the definitive story is left, the less likely of getting it right.
