Looking at buying a 996

[steveoz32]

On another note it isn't a 'full' GT3 replica as he mentions, as although I can't see exactly from the picture, it looks as though the back seats remain, it could just be the angle of the photo though. Also it has standard 'carrera', sill covers, standard Carrera seats, those wheels are sports design and not 996.1 or 996.2 GT3, it looks like it may have spacers on the back to widen to GT3 stance, I'm not sure it's even possible to fit a GT3 exhaust to a 3.4 Carrera lump, as the header interface I believe is different, the lower centre console section is still stock carrera instead of the GT3 blank etc.

That's not to say it doesn't look a good car, just the 'Full GT3 Replica' and parts list doesn't seem true; it's a Carrera with an aero kit on. Given his slightly over enthusiastic description I would question whether it had X74 shocks, from the picture it certainly looks more likely M003 / M030 ride height (again not GT3 kit), so check underneath and the paperwork

I'm not knocking the car at all, and I do not know the owner, it's not one I have seen around the public 996 forum. For the price, it's a good looking motor and seems well spec'd as well as having a lot of work carried out. If it had black leather and checked out I would be tempted to buy it if in the market.

*EDIT* Ride height comparison, mines running GT3 ride height, I took the picture of mine led down and the silver picture looks to be taken slightly higher so you won't see the gap as much between wheel and arch, but you can still tell the difference.

 

[sulzeruk]

I went for the cheap entry to 996 ownership. I bought an early model 1999 C4 in silver with 132,000 miles on the clock with a knackered crank. The car cost £3000. It has had a refurbed gearbox 18 months ago and a new dual mass and clutch kit at the same time. There was also a set of new Michelins all round on it as well. I am doing the engine rebuild myself, a new crank cost £1000, I also had the liner mods done at Hartech for piece of mind. The cylinder heads have had all new valves in them as well as a set of new tappets. All chains and ramps will be changed with tensioners as well, the oil pick up and breathers in the sump will be new too. All engine parts are genuine Porsche. New head studs, crankcase bolts, water pump, etc, etc will all be used as well. The engine bill comes to about £6000 for everything ready to put back together. I think if Hartech did it to the same spec, it would be near to £9000.
PM me if you have any engine questions!
Alasdair

 

[912UK]

That is also what I was thinking buying one with an engine that has gone and hand it over to some one like Hartech.

I have also seen an areo kit on a silver car with black interior as well but more miles and no rebuild. I do like the interior red but then I can see why some one wouldn't. it's like that green 993 colour I love it personaly but it's the worse colour to sell so I am told. But then I have a 356 in the same colour green..

I am tempted to rush out and see this car, but then I am also thinking don't go and rush out on the first car you see.. replacement engines are not uncommon to go bang as well, reading and seeing it my self. £12k for a car that looks to be as decent as you can get does sound very tempting. Biggest thing for me is the Aero kit MUST be factory fitted then I get no grief every year with the insurance company going have you modified the car...?

 

[912UK]

ORIGINAL: steveoz32

On another note it isn't a 'full' GT3 replica as he mentions, as although I can't see exactly from the picture, it looks as though the back seats remain, it could just be the angle of the photo though. Also it has standard 'carrera', sill covers, those wheels are sports design and not 996.1 or 996.2 GT3, it looks like it may have spacers on the back to widen to GT3 stance, I'm not sure it's even possible to fit a GT3 exhaust to a 3.4 Carrera lump, as the header interface I believe is different, the lower centre console section is still stock carrera instead of the GT3 blank etc.

That's not to say it doesn't look a good car, just the 'Full GT3 Replica' part isn't true, it's a carrera with an aero kit on. Given his slightly over enthusiastic description I would question whether it had X74, from the picture it certainly looks more likely M003 / M030 ride height (again not GT3 kit), so check underneath and the paperwork

I'm not knocking the car at all, and I do not know the owner, it's not one I have seen around the public 996 forum. For the price, it's a good looking motor and seems well spec'd as well as having a lot of work carried out. If it had black leather and checked out I would be tempted to buy it.


*EDIT* Ride height comparison, mines running GT3 ride height, I took the picture of mine led down and the silver picture looks to be taken slightly higher so you won't see the gap as much between wheel and arch, but you can still tell the difference.

Having abit more road height is good in my book with the family getting in.. also having 2 seats in the back is a good point for family use as well.. Boys get in the back of my 912s ok. I am not so sure about the boy racer GT3 badge that could hit ebay or my tool box in a heartbeat. but all minor details.. i'm tempted..

 

[912UK]

ORIGINAL: jdpef356



Yes I like that[8D] However, would have to have inspected if it was a potential purchase.

Is it a Club Car? Conatct Warkwickshire RO!

A lot of people purchased a 993 because it was last of the air cooled!

I suggested that a limited edition early 996 maybe in many could rise in value being the first of the 911 water cooled!

A lot of people laughed - what do you think[8|]

I'm not worried about it's long term value in respect of rising prices. I think that would be a LONGGGGGGGGG way down the line take our S2 Cab 944 rare car, with out doubt will be come collectable in the future low numbers and it being still a good looking car.. but I am at that point that this is still a few years off being collected.. so a 996 has another 15 years to go at the very least! No I can see this car I am looking at dropping in price slowly over time I can't see them getting much below £5k for some years yet. When you think of the people buying a new car and losing £5k with a smile and wave as they leave the garage! ( come back soon you mug, smile from the dealer )

As I don't use the car that much toys as such the miles I put on are small certainly not daily I have vans for that. I remember the 993 being the one they leaped to when the issues started with the 996. The more I look the more I am interested in a 996 of some sort for sure. Having all classic cars can be a pain.. It's just nice to turn the key in the winter rain and drive some where.. I can't do that in a classic well I can but then I have to clean it all up again and there's bound to be things to fix. Nope new and old is what i want..

 

[steveoz32]

Yup, like I said it sounds a decent motor, and living with GT3 ride height on a day to day basis would be very hard. I too like seats in the rear as I take the littlun out with us.

 

[thirteeneast]

I think you will find that is Dave's car.

Looks Loverly.

http://www.porscheclubgbforum.com/tm.asp?m=696499

 

[Richard_Hamilton]

Dave lives in Hampshire, so I don't think it is his.

I bet the family would find it more comfortable in the rear of your 912 than a 996. Unless you have the front seats a long way forward, there is nowhere to put your feet in the back. I have been 4-up in the 3.2 and my 993 for short journeys and had no real complaints. Took my (then) 17 y/o daughter in the rear of my 996C2 once, and she was whingeing after about 10 miles.

 

[steveoz32]

Dave's has proper sports design GT3 style rims

Richard's pretty much spot on. The rear of the 996 for sure isn't meant for full grown adults in any sort of comfort, I have had a couple of people in the back who weren't incredibly tall, and they were very uncomfortable and had crooked necks as well as bent up legs the whole way across town, and I drive close to the dash.

My 10 y/o daughter can still just about get away with it in some comfort behind me, but the way she is growing not for too much longer!

The luggage compartment however is pretty generous for a sports coupé, enough room to stack a few sports bags and still put some things in front of them. And of course there is the rear shelf (not that you would want to drive around with things on show there, but in case you bought a random purchase that was too wide for the compartment when out and forgot what car you were in!).

 

[912UK]

LOL the boys are 10 months and 4 years loads of room for them []

I just read though Daves old posts I think it is his car as the engine has been changed looking at some of his old posts by the PO as per the listing.. hmmm... interesting.

I hate this.. i am ment to look at other cars before you go out on the first one. I have sent emails via ebay for now as he is on holiday if this is the right guy..

 

[912UK]

Last time I put too much in the car I used these guys instead.. Family much safer and let some one else take the strain.. for £12 []

 

[steveoz32]

Well, if it is Dave's car then I am sure it's fine

 

[thirteeneast]

Reflecting on what we said the other day,

I think that anyone the buys a 996 at current prices has won the lottery.
Yeah there's problems, But so was there when the first owners had them that paid £70k for them.
And if they kept them say seven or eight years lost £50-55k on them + they may have had troubles during that time too costing them even more as these repairs are more likely to have been done at an OPC.

So by reflection a bloody good deal even with a troublesome car.

£70k worth of technology for £15k result yes there are some tatty 996 out there but on average for the age most are low mileage garage queens.

+ I forgot to say I would love to see some photos of the 912 the one in your AV looks gorgeous.

 

[carreraboy]

ORIGINAL: Richard Hamilton

I like the 996.1 lights. They somehow look more "designed" to me.

Nobody ever called these fried eggs:

F ... IN AWESOME Cool Wall beckons ....

 

[Eddmac]

The ad says 320hp, isn't the 3.4 300hp?

 

[912UK]

ORIGINAL: thirteeneast

Reflecting on what we said the other day,

I think that anyone the buys a 996 at current prices has won the lottery.
Yeah there's problems, But so was there when the first owners had them that paid £70k for them.
And if they kept them say seven or eight years lost £50-55k on them + they may have had troubles during that time too costing them even more as these repairs are more likely to have been done at an OPC.

So by reflection a bloody good deal even with a troublesome car.

£70k worth of technology for £15k result yes there are some tatty 996 out there but on average for the age most are low mileage garage queens.

+ I forgot to say I would love to see some photos of the 912 the one in your AV looks gorgeous.

this is the photo I bought it from and THIS SIZE [] $2000

it can get abit full round my house with at one point 12 vehicals.. well I got abit carried away.. wife never said anything so I just kept buying [] I worked on the, well if you sell you have to buy one quickly because if she gets used to one less it's much harder to get the ok to buy another so often if one was sold I had one already lined up like the next day.. garage space never got cold LOL..

I have 2 more 912's as well I did have 3 more but sold one recently ( so got 3 left ) I have had 7 912 over the years. So I do like them.

But now can you see why I want a modern day Porsche. Not too new not too old. I just from time to time want to go and turn the key and go for a drive.. Life's too short to be constantly building cars. Having our 944 S2 Cab ( brill car BTW !! ) is a turn key car with the odd tinker and it's been a pleasure to own for that reason. OK I have just found some rust but it's still driving and it's a common area ( see 944 section ) and I will get it sorted and Still be driving it..

 

[minny]

You have nice motor cars! My 4 and 6 year old fit in the car perfectly. I used the Carrera and now the turbo as a daily driver. Condition does vary for a given price bracket. I sold my 78k tip Carrera a couple of years back for £12k and it needed absolutely no work done. I had spent about £8k on it in 3 years fixing all the common 996 problems. You can read a bit about it in the 996 running report section. Even then I only had 2 calls about the car. The guy who bought it had looked at loads and said there were so many dogs out there selling for more money.

 

[thirteeneast]

That's a nice 912 you have there, Many thanks for the photos.

Garage looks never ending.

 

[912UK]

LOL, that's the point 4 car garage. I have to rent storage space for the others. i only have two cars at home now adays as I can't work on them at the same time. So 4 to store but you can't move.

 

[thirteeneast]

I no the feeling I and I only have 3 cars.
Keep telling the wife we should sell the house and buy a caravan then we would have lots of $ and lots of parking space.

"You can sleep in your car but you cant drive your house"

Sorry its my favorite saying.