Minimum Weight
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grp/carbon wings and bumpers will knock off a bit more .. then there's ally fuel tanks CGT lights and all manner of trick stuff. (stock exhausts arent the lightest thing in the world either)
i've seen a couple that claim to sneak under 2000lbs which is ~910kg
thing is, start knocking off weight everywhere possible and you only end up adding it back to correct the weight distribution.
Also, coil-overs, beefy ARB's and big brakes weigh more than a stock setup.
i've seen a couple that claim to sneak under 2000lbs which is ~910kg
thing is, start knocking off weight everywhere possible and you only end up adding it back to correct the weight distribution.
Also, coil-overs, beefy ARB's and big brakes weigh more than a stock setup.
944 man
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There is no provision for an aluminium fuel tank: the original tank is in the ideal position any and there isnt anywhere else to safely fit one. I already have a non standard exhaust. I wanted Fuchs originally, but I was shocked to find out how much they now sell for (and I regret selling that set of forged 8" & 9"s with crested centres and new tyres to PH for £250!): I have a set of 7.5" & 9" compomotives, which are alright, but far heavier than foxes. There is a negligable saving to be had fitting GRP front wings and I already have a light (relatively) GRP 951-style front panel.
I think that getting it down to 1000kgs will be quite an achievement.
I think that getting it down to 1000kgs will be quite an achievement.
edh
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I'd have thought you would do well to get below 1000kg. The doors have some good potential for weight saving, but I wouldn't take out the side impact bars without a cage fitted.
We'll have to see where Peter's ends up as well - although that will have the 3.0 + supercharger [
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Talking to Tony who has a bodyshop in the same yard as PH - he thinks there's a fair bit of extra weight on steel wings due mainly to all the underseal. As always, the last few kilos is going to cost you a lot more than the first 100 []
We'll have to see where Peter's ends up as well - although that will have the 3.0 + supercharger [
]Talking to Tony who has a bodyshop in the same yard as PH - he thinks there's a fair bit of extra weight on steel wings due mainly to all the underseal. As always, the last few kilos is going to cost you a lot more than the first 100 [
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Peter Empson
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I'd guess circa 1100kg based on threads I've seen on Rennlist where they've weighed actual cars. I'll be weighing both of mine when the white car is done (perhaps we can arrange a scales of truth []) but it has heavier brakes, lots of paint, standard heavy doors and +50kg for the SC and half cage combined so it's still going to be lardy compared to say Simon Davidsons 944.
]) but it has heavier brakes, lots of paint, standard heavy doors and +50kg for the SC and half cage combined so it's still going to be lardy compared to say Simon Davidsons 944.
pauljmcnulty
Active member
This is planned, probably in the spring. Details are a highly-guarded secret at the moment but the chap with the contacts who's arranging it will post details as soon as it's confirmed. [
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944 man
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ORIGINAL: edh
I'd have thought you would do well to get below 1000kg. The doors have some good potential for weight saving, but I wouldn't take out the side impact bars without a cage fitted.
We'll have to see where Peter's ends up as well - although that will have the 3.0 + supercharger [
Talking to Tony who has a bodyshop in the same yard as PH - he thinks there's a fair bit of extra weight on steel wings due mainly to all the underseal. As always, the last few kilos is going to cost you a lot more than the first 100 [
1000kgs is my goal, but whether I will get there Im not sure. Ive started out with a non-sunroof car, so that should give me a headstart. The original wings are heavy as removed from a car due to the underseal, as you say: a pair of new wings doesnt weigh a great deal though and the pair fitted to my car only have a thin coat of Schutz on them.
So far I have removed: door cards and handles (these alone weigh 5kgs!), window regulators, rear wiper motor, electric hatch release assembly, OEM seats, all carpets and sound deadening mats, spare wheel and tools (treated tyres) and I have replaced all of the glass with polycarbonate.
Under consideration: removing the power steering pump (and joining the two hose ports together on the rack) a coated aluminium plate battery, Fuchs of course and aluminium billet brake calipers (the cast ATE parts weigh a huge amount).
Big Dave
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Whats the weight limit for the PCGB 944 racers.??
I cant see those cars getting down to 900K.??? + they are well stripped out with composite wings etc etc etc...
Best person to ask, would be Kevin or Alex at EMC motorsport in Brum. Theyve prepped LOADS of 944,s in there time...
944man.
Ide be interested to find out what the window motors weight. Did you weight them when you removed them.???
I cant see those cars getting down to 900K.??? + they are well stripped out with composite wings etc etc etc...
Best person to ask, would be Kevin or Alex at EMC motorsport in Brum. Theyve prepped LOADS of 944,s in there time...
944man.
Ide be interested to find out what the window motors weight. Did you weight them when you removed them.???
944 man
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Off the top of my head Dave: 1180kgs with driver. Lots of cars are running four bars ballast though. Alex weighs a bit more than me I think, and I weigh 100kgs.
The window regulators were a little too dirty to weigh, but Ive been wondering myself, so I will bag one up and weigh it later...
The window regulators were a little too dirty to weigh, but Ive been wondering myself, so I will bag one up and weigh it later...
944 man
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ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty
This is planned, probably in the spring. Details are a highly-guarded secret at the moment but the chap with the contacts who's arranging it will post details as soon as it's confirmed. [
Nothing as cloak & dagger for me, I use a local quarry where the weighbridge is left on twenty fours hours a day. [
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pauljmcnulty
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Lol - I suggested the tip where I take my Landscaping rubbish, but there were calls for something a little more celubrious....
Motor racing circuits have nice weighbridges, and have the additional benefit of giving you a day out!
ORIGINAL: Big Dave UK
Cheers.
I have the electric winders on my 968, BUT i also have a "rare" set of manual winders off a CS that im contemplating fitting to my car...
Just wondered what ide be saving weight wise...[
About the same as your lunch you eat before venturing out on track[
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Peter Empson
PCGB Member
Sounds good to me, the ideal would probably be some proper corner weighting scales, then we could compare weight distribution too. I'm sure it'd be possible to convince a good specialist or race team to attend with some.
They're not even that expensive, at circa £800 new it could even be argued that the club could justify buying a set as they should pay for themselves within a year or two if shared amoungst the registers with a small fee charged for each measurement. Sorry, I know I'm complicating things again... []
They're not even that expensive, at circa £800 new it could even be argued that the club could justify buying a set as they should pay for themselves within a year or two if shared amoungst the registers with a small fee charged for each measurement. Sorry, I know I'm complicating things again... [
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