Most expensive 944 in the country ?

[J4CKO]

ORIGINAL: Lowtimer

ORIGINAL: J4CKO
I know mileage matters but not sure how many collectors with 25 grand are out there to buy a 944

When the supply is one, there only has to be one buyer. It's not like anything that's available in numbers, like a tin-top Turbo or an S2 Cab, you can't just pop out one weekend and go look at half a dozen that are for sale in any condition, never mind with 26,000 miles on them.

Well, that is of course true, have always said that when sellijng cars, i.e. that you only need one buyer and I have never been stuck with a car but it is always down to price, I like 944's and have a S2 cab but am one of a small band of enthusiasts who buy these cars because they are good and not ridoculous prices, with 25 grand in my pocket I dont think I would be looking at 944s, I would spend ten grand on a sorted turbo coupe, even if I won the lottery I couldnt really justify 25 grand on a 944, even withing the enthusiasts community a lot seem to have a mental block when it comes to the cab, basically I am just trying to think woho would spend that much on such a nice within a niche but there are 60 million people in the country and it could sell abroad to a Saudi prince, I have learnt that until you have sold a car you never know the reasoning behind the purchase.

This is more realistic though.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/944/porsche-944-turbo-cabriolet-1-of-only-100-produced/873178

 

[Lowtimer]

Fair enough, you might prefer something else to a 944 if you were spending more than £20K, but others including me have chosen differently. When I bought my 944T I immediately put it through a two year programme of "make this look and act and drive like a well run in year-old 944, with whatever restoration and refurbishment and sympathetic upgrading it can benefit from, to get to that end result". I could have easily afforded a 993 or 996 or a good Cayman S instead for what I put into it - well over £20K in total including the original purchase - but I preferred the 944T to anything else I could buy: it is simply the car I wanted but could not afford when they were now, and I don't like many modern cars very much at all. I am likely to do something similar in the near future with a Merc R129 500SL.

I might be a bit odd in that regard but I don't think I am entirely unique. In fact I know there are other 944s out there that have had more than that spent on them.

 

[MarkK]

Somebody will buy it,I am sure there will be allowance in that figure for negotiation,the warranty at Malton is quite amazing (we bought a 964 C4 from them that my wife runs)they fix anything on the car for a whole year,self warrantied no insurance policy whatsoever...

 

[J4CKO]

ORIGINAL: Lowtimer

Fair enough, you might prefer something else to a 944 if you were spending more than £20K, but others including me have chosen differently. When I bought my 944T I immediately put it through a two year programme of "make this look and act and drive like a well run in year-old 944, with whatever restoration and refurbishment and sympathetic upgrading it can benefit from, to get to that end result". I could have easily afforded a 993 or 996 or a good Cayman S instead for what I put into it - well over £20K in total including the original purchase - but I preferred the 944T to anything else I could buy: it is simply the car I wanted but could not afford when they were now, and I don't like many modern cars very much at all. I am likely to do something similar in the near future with a Merc R129 500SL.

I might be a bit odd in that regard but I don't think I am entirely unique. In fact I know there are other 944s out there that have had more than that spent on them.

Yeah, can see what you are saying, could spend a lot more and not enjoy it any more, probably less, it isnt always a financial decision, especially if you are keeping it indefinitely and arent hankering for something else, I like my S2 cab but I would spend 10 grand on a turbo coupe, perhaps a bit more and ineviatably I would end up spending more over time. Not sure what I would buy if someone handed me 25 grand right now, would have fun trying a few different things.

I know if I dropped my 25 grand on the car in question I think it would be viewed by most people I know like Baldrick spending £400,000 on his "Dream Turnip".

 

[Lowtimer]

Why care what other people think?

 

[J4CKO]

ORIGINAL: Lowtimer

Why care what other people think?

True, havent got twenty five grand spare anyway, and the missus would kill/divorce/emasculate me if I did and bought an ostensibly identical car to the one I have for another twenty grand, unless of course I had several million quid and distracted her with shoes and stuff.

 

[944 turbo cabrio]

Well I would sell my black in black Turbo Cabrio for half of that asking price - but then again it has covered a few more than 70.000 miles, has 17" CUP 1 rims, 968 door mirrors and the real Clubsport leather seats - oh and of course it has also been uprated with GAZ Gold coilovers (very nice mod btw.)
To be honest I also see 25.000 as a horrendous price - many opportunies at that price level

Cheers

Niels

 

[Copperman05]

I suppose it appeals to a small market, people looking for the best examples of one of the rarest 944 models are going to know its going to cost them to get it. Whether this is the £25,000 mark time will tell. Its pointless comparing it to 911 prices, yes you could have a 911 for £25,000 but it wont be the rarest model with only 25K thats for sure, apples to apples. The seller obviously thinks its worth near that mark, he can afford to be patient too. As John says mileage would be an issue for me as using the car to any degree would affect its value. However, some people like to keep garage queens, admire them and use on special occasions, this is the kind of buyer here I believe. Compared to a new Toyota GT86 it doesn't seem so expensive does it?


Edd

 

[colin944]

I must admit I like the fact that they want big money for it. As our cars go to the scrap yard in the sky the value will go up.I have spent a small fortune on mine and I haven't done it to build a concourse car,no I am trying to build my car the way I want it and to have a good-ish 944 that i can drive and enjoy for the next few years without worrying about the usual weak spots.
However if I won the lottery I would love to send my car back to Porsche and have them make it like new again. I own a 944 because it's the car i wanted and couldn't afford when I was 18. I've never been a big 911 fan although I could live with a nice 928 in the garage.

 

[Eldavo]

I had a nose around this car on Sunday, it's been there a while and like most of their stock will sit there until the market rises to the price rather than the other way round.

 

[J4CKO]

ORIGINAL: Eldavo

I had a nose around this car on Sunday, it's been there a while and like most of their stock will sit there until the market rises to the price rather than the other way round.

Is it as nice as it looks ?

 

[Alpine]

Specialist Cars of Malton will always try their luck; their cars are way over priced. But I guess that if you are the sort of buyer who isn't really an "enthusiast", buying from a trader is a must (because that is all they have ever done), and £25k is small change, then the car is ideal. I'm sure it will find a buyer soon.

 

[pauljmcnulty]

Fair enough, you might prefer something else to a 944 if you were spending more than £20K, but others including me have chosen differently.

That's largley how I feel. Although I could go mad and buy plenty of "bucket-list" cars for what I spend on the 944, and maybe one day i'll go nuts and spend a year with a Bentley Turbo, a Scimitar, a 190 Cosworth, a Mk 1 Capri, the list goes on forever, I'm probably going to be keeping one 944 or another for as long as I can still get in and (possibly more relevant) out of it.

That passion for using the things is why I don't get the attraction of the museum-piece cars. I want to drive it, park it without worrying about scratches, use the thing to do what it was designed to do. I can understand spending £10K, £15K, £20K on a 944 if you're going to drive it for hundreds of thousands of miles, and love every one of them. Spending that on something you stick in a carcoon, and probably forget you even own, makes no sense to me at all. [&o]

 

[Eldavo]

ORIGINAL: J4CKO

ORIGINAL: Eldavo

I had a nose around this car on Sunday, it's been there a while and like most of their stock will sit there until the market rises to the price rather than the other way round.

Is it as nice as it looks ?

It's lovely yes, as it should be for the price.

 

[Ewan]

I'm more in the Carcoon camp myself, and certainly my 951 is not for winter use or getting scratched. Not having spent what I have on it. I suppose I could get another less precious 944 as a hack-about, but I'd only end up piling money into it and turning it in another collectors piece!

But this particular cab is £10k over current value. I suppose they can add it to that supercharged 968 they've not been able to sell at £25k for the last two years or so as well. Maybe Malton are secret collectors of water-cooled front engined Porsches, and don't want to sell them anyway.

For my money, the turbo cab at Mr911 is the better bet. If turbo cabs are to go up in value any time soon, the white car will lift more from £14k than the red one from £25k.

 

[MarkK]

Car could end up abroad,it's a rare car in the best condition,from a known and trusted name,it's an expensive 944 but not an expensive car by modern standards anymore,Malton are not in a rush and can afford to wait.
One punter only is needed.The type of person that has a space in his collection for one of these or someone that is just plain curious to see what the newest most original example drives like.Who knows,I bet it will sell after a chat.

 

[MartinRS2K]

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

That passion for using the things is why I don't get the attraction of the museum-piece cars. I want to drive it, park it without worrying about scratches, use the thing to do what it was designed to do. I can understand spending £10K, £15K, £20K on a 944 if you're going to drive it for hundreds of thousands of miles, and love every one of them. Spending that on something you stick in a carcoon, and probably forget you even own, makes no sense to me at all. [&o]

I agree with what you are saying Paul, I own a concours MK2 RS2000 that since it's bare shell restoration in 2008 has only done 140 miles and lives in a Carcoon. The car hasn't moved since May 2012 and will only be leaving it's 'home' to go for an MOT at the end of this month [8|]

But I also have my low mileage 944 Turbo that I intend to drive upto 3000 miles this year but this doesn't mean that I will take it out over the Winter or if the weather forecast is for downpours (ie. Summertime). It is still washed and cleaned after each journey as that is how I look after my investment to hopefully ensure that it stays in the best possible condition and in time may go up in value.

 

[pauljmcnulty]

I own a concours MK2 RS2000 that since it's bare shell restoration in 2008 has only done 140 miles and lives in a Carcoon. The car hasn't moved since May 2012 and will only be leaving it's 'home' to go for an MOT at the end of this month

What a waste! That car needs to be out, prowling dark alleys and deserted warehouses, and crashing in to piles of empty cardboard boxes. [][]

 

[John Sims]

ORIGINAL: pauljmcnulty

I own a concours MK2 RS2000 that since it's bare shell restoration in 2008 has only done 140 miles and lives in a Carcoon. The car hasn't moved since May 2012 and will only be leaving it's 'home' to go for an MOT at the end of this month

What a waste! That car needs to be out, prowling dark alleys and deserted warehouses, and crashing in to piles of empty cardboard boxes. [][]

Absolutely [] We do, none the less, need people who are willing to preserve such great relics of our past as, otherwise, such gems will just become a thing of films, pictures and memories. You only have to go around Gaydon to get pleasure in seeing old cars which, in their day, you wouldn't have given a second glance.

We should be more conscientious with our 944's. There aren't many 20 year old cars roaming the streets these days.......but they are so much fun.

 

[MartinRS2K]

ORIGINAL: John Sims

We do, none the less, need people who are willing to preserve such great relics of our past as, otherwise, such gems will just become a thing of films, pictures and memories. You only have to go around Gaydon to get pleasure in seeing old cars which, in their day, you wouldn't have given a second glance.

We should be more conscientious with our 944's. There aren't many 20 year old cars roaming the streets these days.......but they are so much fun.

Agree John, the weather was good last night and it was good to see 3 x Porsche 944's at our local club meeting in Cumbria along with a 968 and a couple of Boxters []