MPG

[Melv]

My ten year old Misubishi Pajero Diseasel does 25-26mpg cruising quietly on motorways at 80 and 22-23mpg around town, anywhere else, towing, uphill, downhill, green laning, mud plugging.....

Oh, and the BFG A/T tyres have 6-7mm left after 30,000miles.......

Probs in three years? New rad as old one furred up, couple of replacement aircon pipes, new power steering pipe and replacement glow plugs.......

Rgds
Mel

 

[Jamesec]

Totally understand that the Cayenne is not the most economical car, and that the Volvo's, Renaults and BMWs of the world will always have better MPG, but when you apply pressure to that little pedal to the right of the brake pedal on a Cayenne, thoughts of MPG disappear to the back of your mind, believe me.

 

[Guest]

Nice piece in Reader's Drives in Sunday Times on Cayenne Turbo.

Two questions:

1. In for a penny, in for a pound. Is there much difference in fuel consumption between a Cayenne S and a Turbo?

2. Is there any prospect of a diesel Cayenne?

Spizz

 

[Guest]

If you are seriously considering a turbo, then fuel consumption cannot be a factor. If it in any way pops into your mind, then you will not be able to drive the truck in the way it was intended. If subconciously you are worried about using fuel, you will hold back, and that means the extra cost is wasted, and the performance will not be used.

Officially Porsche have said that a diesel is not imminent, and personally I think it is unlikely at the moment. However, denial usually means it is true in political circles.

 

[Guest]

So tell me why is a Cayenne better than a Touraeg V10?

Spizz

 

[Jamesec]

The Cayenne is easier to spell.[]

I suppose the Touareg could be seen by some as better than the standard Cayenne but at £53k it is £18k more expensive. If you compare it to the S, which is still cheaper than the V10 diesel, then the performance figures are not as good, losing 1 second on the 0-62 acceleration, 10 MPH of the top speed (and yes we do need that) and (from what I hear) not as good handling. Pricewise it's nearer the Turbo than the standard Cayenne and that would be half way up the M1 before you got the keys into the VW ignition.

Oh, and its a VW.

And it makes the Cayenne look attractive, so I'm all for them.

And while I'm having a dig, it would be really frustrating to fork out that much cash and to have the car labelled "poor man's Porsche". I'm not saying that is right or even that the driver should care, but it would still be frustrating, wouldn't it?

 

[timhum2002]

Really sounds as though you are trying to justify buying a Cayenne and knocking the
Toe-rag. Roll on the diesel KN and I wouldn't have had to order a Disco 3

Tim

 

[Guest]

Timhum

But will there be one?

I feel a loyalty to Porsche and actually find the Cayenne very handsome. Yet I am having difficulty justifying the fuel consumption

Still, borrowing a Cayenne S in a couple of weeks. Maybe I will fall in love...

Spizz

 

[Jamesec]

If you follow the thread, I was merely answering a question.

No need to justify. All the facts came from the VW web-site, because I looked at the two cars when considering a Turbo. I love my Cayenne and I wish you the same enjoyment from your Discovery. The Cayenne and the Disco are two very different animals, though. One will get you there quickly and the other will get you there whatever.

 

[Guest]

..and James do you miss the 911?

Spizz

 

[Jamesec]

I have to admit I really do miss the 911. Mine was a 993 C4, and I absolutely loved it.

I have been in to see the new 997 and I am SO tempted. I like the Cabrio 4S and now I really am trying to justify a purchase. I haven't even test driven a water cooled 911. Do you think I will be disappointed?

 

[timhum2002]

James

I also really like the Cayenne and after a 24 hour test was delighted with it. My difficulty is that I cover 35k miles a year and so fuel consumption becomes critical. A drop from 25/26 to 16/20 is difficult to take. New Disco promises to have much of the refinement of the modern breed of 4x4s. If there were a diesel Cayenne I would immediately get one.

I had a 993 some time back and loved, now 996C4, great car and 997S to arrive in December.

Tim

 

[Jamesec]

Tim,

That is a lot of miles, and by my calculations would have set you back around £1,500 a year more in petrol, but more importantly, would probably cost you at least £3,000 a year in new tyres. 15,000 is considered a very good mileage from a set of Cayenne tyres, so you could get through between 8 and 12 tyres! At £350 a pop that could be be over £4k.

And you have the best of both worlds with your 911.

I do less than 10k a year and that includes an annual drive to Marbella, which is when the Cayenne is really in its element, with three kids in the back!

When did you order your 997S? I was quoted a delivery date of Next August by my OPC and because it was a cabrio I have put this off because I had might as well wait until the following spring. I presume you were in there as soon as it was announced.

James

 

[Guest]

Ordered my 997S in August. Quoted April delivery.

Accoridning to 911 and Posrsche News, there will not be a Cayenne Diesel. US is its biggest market, and no call there. Shame.

Spizz

 

[timhum2002]

James

I sent in a letter of intent to my OPC in May 2003 and followed it with a firm order and deposit at the end of March 2004.

Absolutely right about the running costs. Apart from fuel the cost of tyres was a big consideration. The old Disco manages 60k miles on a set although there is no comparison with the Cayenne. My suprise with the Cayenne tyre wear is that it is so rapid whereas a V8 Range Rover or Mercedes M series seem to do so much better.

Tim

 

[Tony]

Toureg is approx 300lb heavier - over the front wheels.

Tony

 

[Guest]

Call me a dinosaur, but I REALY, REALY hope they do not bring out a diesel. Theres plenty of cars out there to buy if the only concern is MPG.

Porsches are meant to be driven hard and enjoyed, we'll be fitting - I mean using tow bars on the damned things next. Have I been away for that long.

 

[Guest]

On topic.From my S it averages 18 MPG .....will do about 21 on a run.....

Cheers

Steve

 

[Tony]

With you all the way Peter, if you starting fitting diesels sombody will want a power take-off coupling next.

Tony

 

[Guest]

I do about 30k a year in my Cayenne S and i have done 3 full sets of tyres already and about to do the forth (32000miles) I was stung £350 a pop once at a porsche dealer now i get the same tire fitted at my local tyre garage (in Essex) for £165.00 a pop

oh and i average 17.5 MPG (was 14 when new for a couple of months)
i have found that tire pressure has a big impact on MPG. run them realy hard and you can do 23MPG but the ABS kicks in every time you breath on the brake pedal!!

Dave